thats your opinion and whatever. i dont even know who boyz 2 men are fyi. and I define romantic stuff as the guy just going the extra mile to make you smile soooo in this case he definently did. what i meant was any girl that doesnt appreciate the guy making the effort is dumb.

So... A man makes the effort, but it's not up to par with what one, particular woman feels is 'romantic', then it's a negated effort to win her over? Just like a woman who can't get enough. *rolls eyes* Even if a man is making the wrong efforts, at least he's making the effort. That's a helluva lot more than most men can say, because men are pretty bad at this sort've thing. There's a reason that "it's the thought that counts" is a renowned proverb. Any other woman would be grateful that he actually tried, especially since what he did is a general idea of romance. Cheesy as it may be.

You suck just for not knowing who Boy 2 Men are, Nooob! Anyway, romantic shit sucks and I'm allergic to flowers. I dated a guy for a year and a half once who did nothing but buy me stuff all the time and take me out to dinner and buy me more stuff. It made me sick! My love, unlike most girls who are shallow, cannot be bought with dinner and flowers! I dumped his ass and started dating my current boyfriend. He wouldn't know romance if it bit him on the balls, and I like that! he shows his love by being real and showing it through actions of daily life(making me grilled cheese when I'm too tired to do it myself, finding me after I OD'd last year and taking me to the hospital, sharing his love of guns and video games with me, forgiving me when I screw up instead of being an asshole, etc). Planning a big extravagant dinner or evening doesn't mean someone loves you, it just means they are shallow and trying to buy your love without really being themself. IMO, its sickening and the OP got exactly what he deserved. Grow up!

Mag_The_Chodja- That's all fine and dandy if you practice what you preach. But I bet if a girl showed up with a Hannah Montana DVD because she thought you'd think it's romantic, and gave you a ******** by literally blowing on you, you wouldn't be so easy to impress.

Oh, that's right, let's praise men for making a generic effort. If the thought counts, perhaps you shouldn't be thoughtless.

haha sweetheart? wow. if only you knew how old i am..im not young like you think i am. give the guy some props...he thought it would...you know theres no such thing as perfect..he's not going to do the right thing all the time. i mean he had to of thought that he knew something about her or else he wouldn't of done it. my guess is that she just didn't want to get back with him and knew what he would do. i know i would do that if any of my exs did the exact same thing

sounds like you're about as self-entitled as his ex. Get over yourself, hon. The girl should have been at least flattered that he was making any kind of an effort. If she didn't care to even give it a shot then why did she even try to humor him by showing any kind of interest? Sounds like she's a ballbuster and not something to waste much of your time on.

heightsabove, wtf? 'Self-entitled'? What a joke! Why the **** should she have to be flattered by or humour the romantic efforts made by her *ex*, let alone ‘give them a shot’? That whole “Not giving a damn” bit is what being an “ex” is all about. You’re a dick. Please GTFO.

A ballbuster? Maybe she didn’t know that he was going to pull that crap, it is possible that she thought that they were hanging out as friends and then he did what he did. its his fault for trying to win someone back who didn’t want him in the first place, it has nothing to do with the "effort" it has everything to do with mutual wants, he made it awkward when he decided to do something cheesy that he should have know his ex was uncomfortable with, he obviously didn’t know her very well and needs to grow up and learn what his next girlfriend actually likes before going off and wasting his and her time like that. He fails, and so do you...

wtf? no you didn't

dude, hate to break it to ya but... your