true on the food my boyfriend asked why I didn't tip which I responsed "why would I tip them for making the food I ordered? i'm not being served and they aren't delivering it" now we only tip if we have a waiter or delivery guy

I disagree. tipping should not be expected. while I usually tip it is based upon several factors like food quality, speed of service and courtesy. I don't tip if I am at a buffet or do a carry out.

If you eat in a country where the expectation of tipping effects the waitresses wages and the price of your food(they can charge less for the food if they pay the waitresses less) you tip unless it's bad service. No one expects you to tip if you don't have a waiter or waitress, but if you do you're being a dick if you don't tip someone who is doing their job, regardless of whether it's exceptionally or average.

I realize carry out can be tricky,but i worked carry out for a year. I would have 5 tables and have to take 10 minutes to take an order over the phone. My tables would need things in that 10 minutes. Then I would have to take 5 minutes to bag it,make sure everything is there/correct,get drinks and condiments. Then I would have to watch out for the car and take the food out,get the payment,make change/get a credit receipt and take it out. All of this would take time away from my tables. Probably resulting in some of them tipping me less because I wasn't hovering over then enough. So I would get tipped less because I did all the extra work of a Togo order that didn't even tip me?

so the restaurant itself making 800% profit on the dishes they serve isn't enough? I have to put down a 20$ tip when I pay a 100$ meal because some dumb ass bitch managed to carry a plate 8.5 metres?

If you want to eat in a place that's staffed, the staff expect to be paid. If the country you're eating in practices paying waiting staff mostly by the tips, yeah, you do, or you can drag your own fat ass to some take-out drive-through and get your dinner yourself. Such an establishment would probably suit your attitude better at any rate.

It's pretty obvious this argument is going nowhere. Blame your shitty employers for using such a shitty system, not your customers. If it is such a goddamn requirement to tip, then it'd be a law. it is not, and so for you to expect me to part more money just because you happen to work for crappy employers, is wrong and cheeky.

I'm not American Fortune, and nor did I grow up in a country where tipping is expected, unlike you. But if I go to a country where it is, and the waiters depend on it, I tip because I'm not an asshole who expects others to wait on me for 20c regardless of who's responsible for the way their wages are assigned.

dear #61 if you don't want to pay for service, stay at home and make your own food and serve it to yourself or get takeout.

Well,make it yourself for less then! You sound like the dumb one. If you don't like the prices,don't eat there! That server can't control the prices and probably rarely eats there because they can't afford the food. I can't get over what a totally obnoxious and useless argument that it. The cost of the food which has nothing to do with how much the server makes is why you wouldn't tip?

We can blame the employer not the customers as much as we want. The employer isn't going to start paying out any more than the bare minimum they have to. It's not the law to be a decent human being,but shouldn't everyone still be one?