By Anonymous - 10/04/2017 15:31
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OP here. First of all, thank you very much for your support!! Secondly, the reason why my father hates my husband is because of the cultural difference. My family is a conservative traditional eastern European family, they are Christian Orthodox and they care a lot about tradition (getting married in a church, baptizing the kids in orthodox religion, blindly following or doing whatever an older family member sais or asks etc). My husband comes from a typical Nordic family, he's atheist, feminist and basically a very empathetic and open minded person and these qualities are quite the opposite of those of my family's. My dad had always been harsh on me while I was a child and it continued for a long time even after I moved out from my parents house and until I got married to my husband. You would say that living at 2300 km away (we're living and studying abroad) from my dad would be fantastic and he couldn't influence our life in any way... Well he can! He calls my other family members to complain about how I ruined my life and their life by marrying a "pagan" who "has no respect towards our culture" and has married me "out of interest". My other family members call me everyday to complain to me about my father acting insane and to make sure I am ok. I obviously knew something was wrong because he wasn't talking to me (which is abnormal because if he doesn't agree with something he would just call me and yell at me) but I didn't know it was that serious until they told me. Later update: my dad finally called me and he (very seriously) proposed to me that after i will give birth he would take my child away from me so I "could focus on med school without stress" and he would raise him/her as his own child and our baby would grow up speaking only my language and not English (my husband and i speak English at home since we come from different countries). You can all imagine my reaction and what i felt in that moment and why now I'm the one not talking to him anymore. Without any more comments you now have a picture of this very messed up situation and how things like this still happen in the 21st century in developed countries. And no, I had no idea that this kind of thing would ever happen to me. I didn't think that my own father would turn out to be that type of person. I knew he was a bit misogynistic and homophobic but I never imagined that he will not accept my husband just because he's Swedish , or as he likes to call him, "a Viking" (he considers "viking" being a sort of dirty word describing a very massive blond Swedish man with no religion, or a "filthy pagan").
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OP here. First of all, thank you very much for your support!! Secondly, the reason why my father hates my husband is because of the cultural difference. My family is a conservative traditional eastern European family, they are Christian Orthodox and they care a lot about tradition (getting married in a church, baptizing the kids in orthodox religion, blindly following or doing whatever an older family member sais or asks etc). My husband comes from a typical Nordic family, he's atheist, feminist and basically a very empathetic and open minded person and these qualities are quite the opposite of those of my family's. My dad had always been harsh on me while I was a child and it continued for a long time even after I moved out from my parents house and until I got married to my husband. You would say that living at 2300 km away (we're living and studying abroad) from my dad would be fantastic and he couldn't influence our life in any way... Well he can! He calls my other family members to complain about how I ruined my life and their life by marrying a "pagan" who "has no respect towards our culture" and has married me "out of interest". My other family members call me everyday to complain to me about my father acting insane and to make sure I am ok. I obviously knew something was wrong because he wasn't talking to me (which is abnormal because if he doesn't agree with something he would just call me and yell at me) but I didn't know it was that serious until they told me. Later update: my dad finally called me and he (very seriously) proposed to me that after i will give birth he would take my child away from me so I "could focus on med school without stress" and he would raise him/her as his own child and our baby would grow up speaking only my language and not English (my husband and i speak English at home since we come from different countries). You can all imagine my reaction and what i felt in that moment and why now I'm the one not talking to him anymore. Without any more comments you now have a picture of this very messed up situation and how things like this still happen in the 21st century in developed countries. And no, I had no idea that this kind of thing would ever happen to me. I didn't think that my own father would turn out to be that type of person. I knew he was a bit misogynistic and homophobic but I never imagined that he will not accept my husband just because he's Swedish , or as he likes to call him, "a Viking" (he considers "viking" being a sort of dirty word describing a very massive blond Swedish man with no religion, or a "filthy pagan").
OP, what Eastern European country are you from? Haha I can understand your situation as a EEuropean myself.
Hey! Are you from Romania? Because this sounds so much like typical Romanian parents behavior :))))
I am so sorry that this is happening to you. You and your husband sound like lovely people. I never really got why people think that religion makes people better or worse just because they follow different beliefs. I wish you both luck and hope things are able to improve.
Oh boy OP, you have got quite the hassle there. First off, do NOT back down. The sooner you set healthy boundaries and learn to enforce them, the better. Be consistent. Therapy may actually be your friend here in this. In the mean time - don't let your family sway you. If they call to discuss the issue, a simple "This is between my father and I. Should he choose to discuss it with me like a grown-up, I will be here for his call. I will not play telephone with multiple people. He knows my opinion and decision and I await his apology to me and my husband. Subject closed. How's the weather?" If they continue, "I've said all I'll say on the matter, I'll talk to you another time, goodbye" and hang up. Congratulations on the baby. Take care of yourself.
I'm sure you already know this, OP, but please do not bring your baby anywhere near your father. He very well could (and would) kidnap the baby and disappear. I'd cut all ties if I were you.
OP, what Eastern European country are you from? Haha I can understand your situation as a EEuropean myself.
OP, for a "Christian," your dad certainly doesn't seem to be acting like one and is obviously far too set in his ways to change. He's only making himself look bad to everyone. :-( So glad you found such a wonderful guy!!! :-) Stay strong, take the high road so as to retain your self-respect, interact with your dad as little as possible e.g., don't even reply to anything he says/ writes, and file his threats of kidnapping w/ the local authorities for good measure - as well as informing him, too of it. PS Your mom's life w/ him couldn't have been very enjoyable either.... :-( Congrats on the youngin and good luck too w/ school! :-)
Wow, OP, that whole situation sucks. I'm sorry.
Probably a good idea to make sure your father never sees his grandchild - not out of spite, but for the child's safety. Before going home for any kind of a visit, I'd also make sure to know what the law of your country has to say about a father who decides that he needs to take your child from you. Some countries still have very archaic laws in their books that allow the "head of the family" to have more rights than the child's own parents.
Sounds like you turned out well in spite of your fathers attitude and your upbringing.
Oh, sounds like Poland. Greetings and br brave living your life your way.
OK, we've heard one side of the story and if it's true then dad seems like kind of a dick, but think about this: I'm sure some of you have daughters here, how many of you would throw a parade over her marrying an effeminate, pagan, most likely not-so-bright swede who probably has frying pans for hands and very closely resembles Lenny from The Grapes of Wrath? Wouldn't you be afraid he might try to pet her too hard, too?
What? Where did you get that description? What backwards logic are you using?
I'd rather any daughter of mine date someone like that than someone like you.
Wow. Someone's got a problem with Swedish people.
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You should tell your Dad to grow the **** up. Your choice of husband is yours, and as long as your happy and he does you no harm your Dad should be at least happy that you have someone decent irrespective of what he, (your dad), may think of him.
Shouldn't he have let his feelings be known a long time ago? Once you got married, he should have realized that your chances of breaking up go down somewhat.