By n3rdzgotskillz - 07/09/2016 02:45 - United Kingdom - Birmingham

Today, I finished writing my Masters thesis. It's 25,000 words long. I showed it to my tutor, who told me it was completely wrong and that I have to start again from scratch. It's due in two weeks. FML
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n3rdzgotskillz tells us more.

Hi it's me! I'd totally have clicked YDI as well. My MA is only a year old at my university. It's the first year they're doing Creative Writing, so everything is still in beta mode. I picked my topic and basically wrote about what my tutor told me to. Unfortunately, due to miscommunication within the Creative Writing department, none of the lecturers were sure what I was supposed to be writing until about a month ago - so even though the research I'd done was what my tutor told me to, it's not the research I was supposed to. Thankfully, my lecturers have taken responsibility for giving me false information, and they've apologised to me and extended the deadline to the end of January. Also - I saw my tutor fortnightly and he always told me I was right on track! It just turns out I was on track with the wrong thing, haha.

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Isn't progress meant to be checked along the way?

That's your own damn fault. After you are done reading most of the literature you are supposed to write a 15 page Exposé you show to your tutor and/or professor to check if your work is going into the right direction. Then you check in when your research is done to see if the outcome is correct. Then you start putting the whole thing together. If you didn't at least get THAT feedback, YDI.

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25000 words means around 100 pages. Assuming 40% of it will be reusable (background and research premise). You have to write about 60 pages, of which around 50% will be charts and tables. Doable in 5 days if your data is alright.

That's assuming op is in a technical field. They could be studying classical Shakespearian literature or something silly like that.

flyingflies 36

30 pages of charts and tables seem a bit of a stretch...

Wow, I really should have studied something where this is possible for a masters thesis. Even in technical fields you cannot just vomit tables and plots all over the pages without further analyzing and those tables and plots have to be made in the first place.

"Shakespearian literature or something silly like that" - it's even worse, it's Creative Writing!

250 words/page seems like fairly little information. If you remove 50% of that in charts and tables you basically have a thesis consisting of tables and table descriptions.

Luckily, there are many burger-flipping jobs open for people who could only manage a bachelor's degree. And, yes, I'll have fries with that.

I hope your tutor sat down with you and formulated a plan of action for this. How did you manage to go so badly off track? I hope there are chunks of it you can salvage and tweak.

By tutor do you mean faculty advisor, or another student? Because I would go to your advisor before completely rewriting everything. Everyone always has their own opinion, but your thesis committee members are the only ones who really matter at this point.

Tsumetai_ 11

I agree with #21, get a second opinion. Did the tutor just say 'all wrong, re-do it' without saying what's wrong, sounds like they didn't give any constructive criticism. You shouldn't have to start again from scratch.

As a fellow post-grad at your university (though there are three in this city so I am guessing...) I'm quite surprised you've got to this stage, and I'm tempted to think it's not as bad as your making out. You should have an appeal officer in your department who you can speak to as well as another specialist in your field who can look things over for you. It probably can be edited into something that's usable. You could speak to the Academic Advisory Service who can assist with any writing skills. I expect its impossible to change the area of your work but it might be possible to change the focus of your work. On the other hand, as a Master's student you won't have a panel or viva and so it is important that you do EVERYTHING your tutor has said as they will be probably be marking it. Good luck!

Call me crazy but a thesis can't technically be wrong, can it?

pacman490 21

My senior design project "mentor" told us 3 weeks before our presentation that the data from our 4 month long experiment was all wrong. That whole time he never asked us how things were going.

Hi it's me! I'd totally have clicked YDI as well. My MA is only a year old at my university. It's the first year they're doing Creative Writing, so everything is still in beta mode. I picked my topic and basically wrote about what my tutor told me to. Unfortunately, due to miscommunication within the Creative Writing department, none of the lecturers were sure what I was supposed to be writing until about a month ago - so even though the research I'd done was what my tutor told me to, it's not the research I was supposed to. Thankfully, my lecturers have taken responsibility for giving me false information, and they've apologised to me and extended the deadline to the end of January. Also - I saw my tutor fortnightly and he always told me I was right on track! It just turns out I was on track with the wrong thing, haha.

I'm glad that your school weren't complete dicks about something that wasn't technically your fault, and that you have plenty of time to redo your thesis. You seem like a responsible person OP, so good luck on the second one!

I would be concerned about a school that offers a Master's degree program and happily takes your money before figuring out what the hell the degree is about, what the qualifications are, and what the job of the faculty actually is.

Attacksloth 33

I'm still a little confused about why there was so much miscommunication, even if your program is in beta mode. Quality of advising shouldn't be sacrificed because it's a new program. If anything, new program facilitators and educators would probably dot more of their i's and cross their t's more so their program gains positive recognition. When I was completing my MA (history), it was important that I, my advisor, my committee, and the department were on the same page. When the department had their meeting to elect my committee, everyone had to unanimously vote that my thesis contributed something to historical discourse. If it didn't, I would have had to go back to the drawing board. Upon completing my draft, I had: 1. Eight revision stages from my advisor. 2. Three from my committee 3. Final proofreading All-in-all, editing and advising time took up ~60% of my MA. Sounds like you got the major shaft, and I hope it doesn't cost you any extra on tuition. It also sounds like you should meet with your advisor more.

I'm just impressed that a one year old baby could do something like that.

There should have been more back and forth before getting to this point. Meetings, outlines, sections sent to your mentor. This is a two way street, you bugging your tutor for time and delivering works in progress (which I am assuming is a professor who is a mentor) and the professor reading your progress and guiding you in the right direction.

Already said this, but I've met him fortnightly for the last year. :)

Keep in mind most Americans don't know what "fortnightly" means. I know it means "every two weeks" but I is a geenyus.

You get bonus points for using the word fortnightly. Apply them as you wish.