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By How's the salmon? - This FML is from back in 2015 but it's good stuff - United States
By How's the salmon? - This FML is from back in 2015 but it's good stuff - United States
Gotta hand it to your mother, she sounds like a real class act. Can't say WHICH class, mind you: I didn't major in Psychology.
bet that made him feel welcomed to the family:/
How does she know your husband likes anal??
Femnazis and feminists are pretty different.
If that's how your mother thinks of men then how were you born?
A Petri dish..... or perhaps the OP was adopted :)
Perhaps that experience is what made her so hateful.
#19 So what I'm hearing from you is that the OP has more culture than their mom?
@ #75 I see what you did there, its always nice to see someone particapite in a pun solution such as this.
Please don't let your mother ruin the image of feminism for you. The real ones are interested in equality, not putting down men.
Well, really, that's not feminism. It's misandry, which is the opposite of misogyny.
the "real" feminists need to actually step up then because ones like ops mom are your loudest and your majority right now
#47: Yeah, no kidding. There was one study where 85% of women said they believed in equality, 15% said they called themselves feminists. We either need to conclude that being a feminist isn't the same as believing in equality, or assume that people misuse the term "feminist". The latter bears the burden of linguistic prescriptivism, where you tell people how to use language instead of learning what words mean based on how they are used...
#50 and any male/female anti-feminist, a study done by a male high school teacher: In the 1970s, he asked his classroom "Who in here is a feminist?" Everyone raised their hands. With questioning he concluded that everyone believed in equality, men and women. That is what they all believed feminism was: equality. In present day: the same teacher asked his current class the same questions. Two women in his class raised their hands. His new conclusion: The term 'feminism' has been ruined by women who wanted to oppress men like men have oppressed women. Here's why I need feminism: I'm larger chested than the average woman, and I'm only sixteen. I'm a 36 J, but still thin around the waist. I have to remind male teachers where my eyes are, and been suspended for punching guys in the face because they feel the entitlement to grab me or unhook my bra. Men are feminists too; like my boyfriend and many male friends. They have gender roles and outrageous body standards just like women. Feminism is fighting for men and women, period.
47- Perhaps they are the loudest but they are definitely not the majority. People always seem to take notice of 'feminists' like OP's mother and then completely ignore feminists who just want equality (and that's most feminists).
It is worth noting that feminism as an ideology goes beyond saying the genders need to be equal: the movement holds that society, institutions, etc, are all historically and structurally biased against women as the disadvantaged gender and need to be at a minimum comprehensively reformed and at the extreme completely dismantled and rebuilt in order to build a truly equal society. It is entirely possible to believe in gender equality without ascribing to feminist ideology.
Feminism is about equality, simple as that. A lot of people don't say they are feminists because of it's name which is fine, as long as people don't wanna shit all over people just because of gender or sexual orientation or whatever then what's the problem just don't be dicks. Although why call the mother a feminnazi??? It's incredibly offensive to anyone Jewish or any feminist to hear that, how can you compare the misandry shown here to the slaughter of millions? You can't, it completely demeans their pain; use a word that more actually describes the mother, like a misandrist.
#57 "Feminazi" is just a colloquial term. It also embraces a bit more than merely misandry. For further reference I recommend the wonderful documentary "Jessica the Feminazi": youtu.be/XARMbTEGVDk
modern feminism is not about equality, it is women playing the victim and expecting special treatment because they have a ******. Feminists only ever seem to address nonexistent issues and avoid true issues (for example actual feminist issues in 3rd world countries). or even address inequalities that benefit them (for example being exempted from the draft or paying less for car insurance despite being statistically more likely to be in an accident). Look at the facts! there is no wage gap, there is no "glass ceiling", and there is NO rape culture. the only group that says women are too weak to help themselves, or says that they cant be a ceo or a president are FEMMINISTS. Feminists are the ones who say women are at the mercy of the patriarchy. everyone else knows better. the only inequality that I can think of is that women can't walk around shirtless, but seeing how more women vote than men, there should be no "patriarchy" standing in the way and no reason for a change not to occur.
Thank you for this! I agree.
I think a big issue is shaming feminism. There have been countless times when I've been verbally (and once physically) attacked simply because I said I'm a feminist. I explained I'm all for equality, and even gave a few examples of how males are at a disadvantage in society in certain aspects and how that can be potentially changed; yet I have been yelled at and degraded just for the label. When I say what I stand for, people have told me that's not what I actually believe, and that's not what I am- all because of the twisted perception of feminism. I know many feminists who are afraid to say they're a feminist in public because of the misconceptions and the overwhelming perception that feminism = mysandry. There's now a movement to call it "equalism" instead, but that movement also shames anyone who uses the word feminism.
Most feminists I've encountered are very concerned about women's experiences in third world countries, they're aware the small injustices they suffer are amplified for others without their wealth and lifestyle and see it as a global problem to combat. Not sure who you're getting your facts from.
She must have had some really bad experiences with men. Maybe try to get her laid? Joke joke
Wow! Was the fish as raw as her comments?
I'm sorry your mom made such a thoughtless comment on your wedding day; it sucks and you didn't deserve that at all. With that being said, there are much better terms to use than "feminazi" in this instance.
You know, I really don't think there is, except maybe "****." Kind of bitchy of you to throw some PC crap in OP's face when she's just experienced something so humiliating.
@25: This may come as a complete shock to you, but you actually can be upset with someone, without equating them to a group that carried out literally millions of mass murders within the past century. OP could have just as easily said, "my drunken horrible mother", "my drunken inconsiderate mother" - hell, even "my drunken mother that likes to leave Legos lying about to record people stepping on them so she can upload the videos to YouTube" would have been more appropriate here. "Feminazi" is not cute nor stylish, never has been and never will be. It's 2015, people; seeing how many new words are created each year, I think we can use better terminology here.
Oh come on, OP can't be that delicate. Feminazi is often a word used by people who feel threatened by the idea of equal treatment regardless of gender, rather than to describe a woman like this who is just bigoted. I can understand 21's concerns.
I don't see anything wrong with feminazi, it's the same use as grammer nazi. A person that takes something to the extreme. I don't see you (or anyone) getting upset about that word. Also what is so wrong with comparing a group that has killed thousands of people with a group that wished it killed thousands of people? Until 2010 it was still acceptable for the biggest feminist group to have a paper on their website wich they called 'the ideal world paper', in wich one of the plans was to reduce male population to 90%. One of the example's that justifies them getting compared. If there was a need for it, if people actually used it as a comparison. I don't even belief you are actually upset about feminazi's. You are upset that people are starting to turn away from feminism. Feminist popularity hasn't been so low in 100 years. You don't actually want to change your movement to be valid in a western modern society, so you'll just complain to those that talk bad about it as if censorship removes the bad things your movement does. Go fix your movement, not silence others.
feminazi fits perfectly. don't like it fix your movement
Seriously? In this context "feminazi" is PERFECTLY appropriate: people who equate feminism with misandrism. Yes, there is some baggage as a number people identified 'Feminist' as 'feminazi', but really, with her behavior I doubt that anyone sees this as being an indictment of feminism.
I'm not going to hold myself responsible for everyone who calls themselves a feminist just because I am concerned with issues that come under its wide-raging umbrella. Saying all feminists are misandrists is like saying all Muslims are terrorists. 'Feminazi' tars everyone with the same brush.
I think it's perfectly appropriate to compare OP's mother to a Nazi. The Nazis irrationally and passionately hated certain groups of people, as does OP's mother, to the point that she doesn't care about making a complete fool of herself and publicly humiliating her own child. Sure, she hasn't killed anyone... yet... but the extreme and bigoted nature of her hatred is comparable even if her actions are not.
Feminazi describes the misandrist women who want all men dead. It fits, dont be so pc.
You have a really simplistic view of Nazis, don't you? Yeah just forget about the racial purity propaganda, the mass murders carried out in camps, the fact that they targetted more than just Jewish people, the fact that Nazis had a lot more power than the Jewish people, the anti-Semitic propaganda that many people, including many Americans, actually believed (and still believe to this day, I shit you not.) Nope the only thing that matters to you is that they "irrationally hated people." Literally nothing else.
#76 Funny, being "PC" has become worse than being "an asshole" in some locations. Apparently, trying to make sure you don't needlessly offend or hurt people has become more offensive than going out of your way to needlessly offend or hurt people.
#77 I didn't forget about the way the Nazis behaved. That's why I said "Her extreme and bigoted hatred is comparable even if her behavior is not." Did you even read my reply? And a big factor in a person's behavior is how much power they wield. If OP's mother is behaving this way as a powerless individual, just imagine how she'd behave if she did wield the political and military power that the Nazis possessed. The comparison may be much more apt if that were the case.
#79 Funny, being in favor of "freedom" has become worse than being in favor "authoritarian" in some locations. Apparently, trying to make sure everyone has the freedom to do what they want, even if that includes offensive things has become more outrageous than going out of your way to limit individual freedom. Getting offended is normal. Everyone will get offended at some point. The problem is when you will try to limit the freedom of others because you are offended. Taking offense is still a feeling and it does not trump freedom of speech. Why is PC getting unpopular? Because drawing a Mohammed cartoon is offensive and everyone gets that, but shooting people for that cartoon does not make it ok and if a 'PC-person' talks about that incidence it is only to justify the shooting because 'feelings got hurt'. PC is something that needs to be pointed out, you shouldn't go to jail for doing something un-PC and you defenitly shouldn't get shot for it.
Case in point, it's actually fallacious to refer to Nazis in the past tense. They're still around, usually under the name "Neo Nazi, and while they still possess their hateful and elitist philosophy, they no longer run concentration camps and commit mad genocide, only because they lack the power to do so.
Also, yes, 79, this conversation is ridiculous. Why the hell are people getting all up in arms over someone assigning a reprehensible name to someone who behaves reprehensibly? **** that bitch. If she didn't want to be called a "feminazi" she should have thought of that before she acted like one.
I don't think anyone's trying to limit free speech, just questioning the use of a particular word in this context. The language we use often has implications, suggesting we shouldn't discuss these nuances because of 'free speech' is absurd.
Apparently, criticizing what people say is now violating their freedom of speech, according to "anti-PC" people. Good to know. Also, you guys, you're behaving just as bad as the mother in this situation, whining about people criticizing a word for its negative connotations. Does that mean I get to call you Politically Incorrect Nazis?
Excuse me, 97? **** you. I would never dream of publicly humiliating a family member like that, nor would I criticize her for using colorful language to describe someone who did, because she has every right to be angry. Maybe you should focus on the behavior that inspired the use of the word you dislike, rather than shame someone for expressing her perfectly justified anger after being humiliated on her ******* wedding day. Seriously, she has it bad enough without a self righteous ass like you talking down to her.
Try to get this through your thick skulls: OP used a horrible word to describe her mother because she did something HORRIBLE. It's striking that you "feminists" gloss over a woman being treated like compete and utter shit and and nit pick the victim's words. Yeah, real champions of women's rights you are. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Go re-read what I've said because I'm all in favor of criticising everything and then I do mean everything, everything I hate can get criticism, everything I love can get criticism. Criticism isn't the end of the world. I was explaining why people are starting to dislike PC-people, for valid reasons, because PC-people tend to see the world in white and black. Like you are doing right now.
That escalated quickly o.O
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so how was the salmon?
She's really representing women well eh?