Punishment fixes nothing in the long run? Wow. I take it you've never babysat or even had to housebreak a puppy. You have to establish consequences of actions. Good and bad. Punishment doesn't just mean beating black and blue with a belt. Time out and grounding are punishments. Revocation of privileges. Extra chores. There are plenty of things that can be used effectively. Hell, some kids are mortified of just being called out on doing wrong.

"Punishment fixes nothing"?! Seriously? Never have children. I can only imagine the heinous hosebeasts they would be. Also, nice shifting of blame in the last two sentences. Yes, it's all your meany face parents' fault that you treated the people in your life like crap. (Would like to add that yes, children's behavior can be influenced by what they see at home. However, that's the only logical part of this comment that I could see.)

We learn best from punishment when serotonin is spiked in the brain and we learn best from reward when dopamine levels are high in the brain.

Lack of discipline is what causes kids to be hellions. "Punishment doesn't work".... You're an idiot.

it can help. at that age it does work if you stick with it. We are talking about grounding and spanking not a cage.. :b

I agree and disagree with punishment accomplishes nothing. I agree in the sense that when children are small their long term memory isn't as developed as it is when they're older, so they don't always necessarily remember why what they did was wrong. However, I don't think saying it's ineffective in the long run is quite true either. I think if you stick with a particular type of punishment through out that child's life time, as they grow and develop it will begin to have a better affect on them. I also understand what he's saying with 'monkey see monkey do.' Parents really have to watch their behavior around children because ultimately parents are the role model and children will copy virtually anything their parents do. However, calling this person an idiot doesn't make him right or wrong. It just proves this whole app is full of bullies and people that think they're better than others, which is especially ironic considering this entire post started out about bullying.

There's a difference between a spanking and child abuse.

Yes, but too many people will immediately equate a spanking to child abuse.

A lot of people that can't differentiate between 'discipline' and 'child abuse' are those who were ACTUALLY abused, so they see even a spanking as abuse. You can't really blame them for what they went through shaping their view of things though.