By ThatBackfired - 17/11/2016 15:51
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Wow. This is HILARIOUS. 1) Yes, the collar VIBRATES and nothing else. I shelled out extra for the model that had no shock option whatsoever. The collar does not shock, it does not blast his ears. The second would be useless, since he’s pretty much deaf. I would never use either of those on a dog. Yes, I tried it on myself. I have far more powerful sources of vibration. Yes, I used it previously in training. He didn’t react like this. 2) Unfortunately, his previous owner left him in a crate and forgot about him, so that isn’t an option. 3) He’s good in the car and doesn’t always bark, only when he’s (a) in the car and (b) sees rescue vehicles or other large dogs. That makes it ******* hard to predict when he’s going to bark, and makes positive reinforcement pretty much impossible, since I can’t tell WHILE DRIVING A CAR if he’s seen something and not reacted. And how exactly should I give him a treat, praise, or affection when he’s in the back, I’m in the front, and he can’t hear me? 4) Next time you’re driving, shove an earbud into one ear and tell your passenger that at some point in the drive, they should turn on the MP3 player it’s connected to, which you have preset at maximum volume. Explain to them that this is perfectly safe, and will not distract you at a crucial moment in the drive or cause you any pain whatsoever. Now imagine this happens every time you get into a car with them, and you may understand why I’m trying to train it out of him.
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Wow. This is HILARIOUS. 1) Yes, the collar VIBRATES and nothing else. I shelled out extra for the model that had no shock option whatsoever. The collar does not shock, it does not blast his ears. The second would be useless, since he’s pretty much deaf. I would never use either of those on a dog. Yes, I tried it on myself. I have far more powerful sources of vibration. Yes, I used it previously in training. He didn’t react like this. 2) Unfortunately, his previous owner left him in a crate and forgot about him, so that isn’t an option. 3) He’s good in the car and doesn’t always bark, only when he’s (a) in the car and (b) sees rescue vehicles or other large dogs. That makes it ******* hard to predict when he’s going to bark, and makes positive reinforcement pretty much impossible, since I can’t tell WHILE DRIVING A CAR if he’s seen something and not reacted. And how exactly should I give him a treat, praise, or affection when he’s in the back, I’m in the front, and he can’t hear me? 4) Next time you’re driving, shove an earbud into one ear and tell your passenger that at some point in the drive, they should turn on the MP3 player it’s connected to, which you have preset at maximum volume. Explain to them that this is perfectly safe, and will not distract you at a crucial moment in the drive or cause you any pain whatsoever. Now imagine this happens every time you get into a car with them, and you may understand why I’m trying to train it out of him.
I'm just dropping a comment to say thank you for taking in a dog that came from a bad home and actually working with them to rehabilitate them instead of throwing them away again when they turn out to have problems from their history. Especially taking the extra time and resources needed to rehabilitate a dog with a disability that interferes with most rehabilitation methods. On the advice side, maybe line wherever he sits with plastic, and put some old towels over it? That way the urine doesn't go onto the seat if it happens again.
I can understand you're trying to train him, but maybe he was caught off guard. You said he is pretty much deaf so maybe because one of his senses is dull he's more easily frightened or startled? One thing I know about animals is vibrations scare them. I'd still say ydi because you're not using positive reinforcement. Could you try not driving, or have someone else drive while you're training the dog? Like have the car in park and stuff like that. If he doesn't bark like that, then how about having your friend drive you around while you are calming the dog and training it.
Thanks for reading my posts through before commenting! I do have a waterproof cover on the seat. I just had to completely clean him off at the sitter's, and pull off the cover and stick it in the trunk (still made the car smell), which resulted in me being late for work. It was just bizarre that he'd be so frightened of something that's happened many times before. I think his brain must work differently in the car. He's a funny dog. Large dog + walk = everybody's pals, but large dog + car = barking at the top of his lungs.
#47, that has got to be the worse advice I've ever heard. Even after reading OP's post, you still don't understand? So, you want OP to not drive simply because of her dog's one mistake. You're right, bills don't have to be paid, she doesn't have a job, she doesn't even eat, so let's tell OP to not drive until her dog is trained. As for having the car in park, you most likely won't be parking in the middle of the road just to see if your dog doesn't bark.
Hmm. I would suggest a "thunder buddy" pet jacket- while they are usually used for pets that have anxiety triggered by storms, you could try putting it on him before the car ride. They work by using the compression to give a soothing quality. They also have sprays you can put on a patch on the jacket to help further. If he stays terrified of car rides, it might be a good idea to ask about low dose antianxiety medication, if that's something you can afford and are willing to consider. You could even try a low dose of Benadryl if he doesn't have any health problems that would contraindicated it- not sure of the exact dosage for a 75 pound dog, but my 20lb dog was played for a 25mg dose, so you could probably start at 12.5 mg and work up from there, if a vet thinks it'll be safe.
Least he didn't piss on you though
INHUMANE!!!
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Show it anywayThere's a difference here, #60, you're choosing to use something vibrating on yourself, you're in control, you're doing it on an area that feels good when stimulated. Now imagine if every time you spoke a bit too loudly you got a sharp vibration around your neck.
Buzz collars are cruel. YDI
To all the dickwads saying it's cruel, it's not a shock collar it's just a damn vibrating collar
you deserved it :P #KARMA
Those things ****** hurt! Strap that bitch on yourself and yell, you'll see.
*Shock collars hurt like hell, buzz collars, nah.
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If you've never trained him with it, what did you expect to happen? He's never felt that - maybe it just surprised him, maybe it hurt him. To just suddenly slap it on and expect him to understand it is pretty silly. Alternately, you could always crate him in the back. YDI button should be here for this one.
YDI buttons are never there when you actually need them