woahhhhh not every hot girl is looking for a hot guy! Some girls care a lot more about personality than others I'm pretty sure you just made a huge stereotype! None of us going into a club know the values of the person we've never talked to, so I think that it is easily acceptable to be surprised at such an offhand and rude reaction. to OP, on to the next one man

I repeatedly said that she rejected him in a rude way. I'm merely talking about physical attraction. I didn't say that all hot girls were looking for hot guys. All I was saying is that if OP is looking for hot partners then why can't the girl at the bar? So, if OP isn't hot he really has no right to be offended by the actual rejection itself, but only the manner in which it was done. A larger point from my conclusion is that people in OP's position generally claim to be in the friendzone. Most of us are average to ugly looking, yet many of us insist on only focusing on above average to gorgeous partners. People in that range also have the right to seek partners who are in that range as well, so a person not in that range shouldn't be offended by that. They're only doing what you are doing. My advice to OP is to maybe next time go talk to the girl sitting in the corner that no one usually looks at. That is not to say that an average to ugly looking person will have an amazing personality, and a gorgeous person will have a bad one. It's just more likely that you'll find a person with a great personality who isn't gorgeous, because there are more of them out there.

To clarify: you never said that the way it was done was rude, you said it could have been friendlier. I agree with you that people have the right to go for whatever crowd they please, but you are grouping people by their attractiveness, which in many ways is superficial because attractiveness ESPECIALLY in a woman's eyes is not always the primary factor. You said that he has no right to be mad about being rejected by a girl that is "gorgeous" when he is "probably only average looking". You're in essence saying OP's expectations are too high for his own looks set, and thus he should go for less attractive people. OP: you are born with your expectations for woman, just like you are born with your set of looks. You can do temporary things or long term things to help improve these things but in the end, you probably won't drift that far because these are things you were born with.if you lower you're expectations based on what others say, you'll find yourself going after women who you don't have a high physical attraction to and you'll end up regretting it. If you take the time of approaching a lot of women that you feel are extremely attractive, you'll naturally over time change your expectations in small ways and also have given enough time that you will probably find onebeautiful woman that is attracted back to you, because EVERY PERSON IS DIFFERENT, and grouping yourself by how attractive you are restrains what you are capable of in a world where everyone is interested in different things.you do have the right to be hurt by the rejection because it's a rejection, it's meant to hurt.

I wasn`t upset at the rejection, I was more surprised at the way in which I was rejected...lol...and she was cute, but i didn`t think that she was out of my league...maybe that`s where I went wrong...

Lol. "Most of us are average to ugly looking." ... Do you know what the word "average" means? Your sentence is a fail. It is an accurate representation of your comment as a whole.

89: Do you have something meaningful to add or are you just in the business of insulting?