Even if op listened unless it was something serious that you could prove she couldn't do anything. My dad legally had rights for my brother and I could visit him on specific holidays and every other weekend. If I wouldn't have gone my mother could've gotten in legal trouble if it was seen as denying access.

Some people don't have the confidence to tell someone a situation if it's really serious. You can't just assume OP isn't listening to her if we don't know whether or not the daughter has spoken up about it.

She isn't fond of her brother and sisters either which is why she didn't wanna go

So.. Your child is a brat, and that's okay with you? Because that sort of behavior would get my ass handed to me before I even went off. If you don't nip that in the bud, she'll hold onto that trait because you're enabling her. If you already have, good for you, and keep at it. You really don't want to have to put up with that when she's older.

So she's a little brat. You have to let her know this isn't acceptable. And maybe check her bags before she leaves so she doesn't pack anything she isn't supposed to.

...the suburbs aren't middle class now?

I'm sorry, how old is she? You haven't answered it yet so I'm assuming you don't want to say, so can you give an age range? I feel like this makes a difference.

mines. . .

You just know this is a white family

Apparently the suburbs aren't middle class anymore.

Pretty sure she means middle class=house valued around or under $100,000 (depending on the area), suburbs= house valued at or over $200,000 but less than $500,000

Maybe life is more exciting around the mines.

something that might be relatively funny or work is act like you don't notice it's gone. at that age it'll really get at her. also check her bags when she isn't looking for any necessities. OR on the flipside you could swap the bag and or it's contents as punishment, the "if you act like a child I'll treat you like one" tactic and instead of her normal clothes have things like light up sneakers or mommy's little princess shirts

That's my confusion too someone else was all "suburbs are" and gave a lower amount of money but Unless Middle Class now means you live in a mansion then most middle class people still live in the suburbs. Suburbs aren't about how much your house costs but about living in a residential neighborhood made up of houses on tracts of land.

So because OP's daughter is trying to manipulate OP into getting her way, OP should just let her do so?

It's not that simple. If the father has the rights to see his daughter, he gets a certain amount of time with her. Depending on how old OP's daughter is, she might not be old enough to be able to make that choice. I hated going to my dad's after a certain point because it just wasn't home and I just felt like an outsider there. Nothing bad was happening. They just had their own lives and I felt out of place. It wasn't until I was 14 that I was allowed to decide whether or not I wanted to go out there. I went a few years without visiting my dad, only seeing him once in a while when he drove to California since I and the rest of his family lived there. I don't think I went out there again until I had turned 18 and then again around my 20th birthday. I haven't been out there in almost 6 years now. Sometimes it doesn't mean there's something bad gong on. The relationship is just weak. Of course, that isn't to brush off any legitimate worries.

I agree #27. When I lived with my mother, I used to visit my dad every Saturday (he used to see me every Wednesday night also until I finished Primary School). I've since moved away from home, but I would barely visit my dad now when I come back to see my mam. He used to be my favourite, "cool" parent and I loved going out to see him because he never gave out to me, he smokes weed, he let me do whatever I wanted and I loved having bitching sessions with my stepmother - Now that I'm older, I realised it's always me that contacts them first to meet up or to have a chat, my mam is the only one who visits my home; out of the 2 years I've lived here he hasn't visited once, they're quite snipey and bitchy towards my maternal side of the family after a misunderstanding and they won't let it go, their place is so smokey and smelly from cigarettes and joints it stinks up my hair and clothes and I hate it now (my mam doesn't smoke at all) and my stepmother is so nasty towards people when she's bitching about someone, I just don't want to hear it anymore. The most important thing is what #27 said about having a weak relationship, I don't actually know my dad and it's a real shame. Maybe the OP's child is experiencing a similar situation?