Stop copying #12

Its the same person o.O

Now THAT is a reasonable and logical system. A servers wages reflect their work, and they give good service to keep their job. No bullcrap tipping system required.

In stores, yes, but with services like waitering or delivering a pizza it's perfectly normal to tip.. At least in the Netherlands, and I see you live there too.

In the Netherlands, I was told by a restaurant owner that I tipped too much. According to him, it wasn't necessary at all. Although it's still common and nice to give maybe a tiny bit. Just not nearly as much as here in the States. Honestly, the custom of tipping is greatly exploited here.

True, tips are much lower here most of the time, but still, when you don't tip it's not very much appreciated ;) And they really said you tipped too much? :O How much did you tip then?

In Europe, even in restaurants, people usually tip at most the change (or part of it). However, it is not uncommon to tip delivery men a bit more than that, depending on the time of day, weather and distance - unless the delivery fee already includes that.

in Europe they are paid a higher salary. servers in the USA rely on tips for a large piece of their income.

Which is an utterly ridiculous situation.

I tipped maybe 10-15% on a €100 meal. In my city I usually go 18-20%. The restaurant owner suggested that just a couple of € would be perfect.

Ah yes, I would have been very happy with €10 or even €15 tip when I was a waitress! The largest tip I ever received was €20 and that was from a group of 12 people :)

Servers in the US also report their tips to be taxed. I know servers here only make about 2.50$ an hour, so tips are expected. The servers should get tipped based on their service though.

Over here in Canada average I used to get was $1.50 to $7.00 on a delivery, average delivery for pizza was $25.00, talk about generosity!!!

The tips culture in America represents that a lot of these people generally get paid a pittance, you gotta have empathy if someone's doing a job they hate in order to survive, not getting much for it, and needs extra to survive. Yeah, it sucks that the company or government won't do anything about it, but if someone can afford to give something, it helps, though i also understand that some people can't afford to tip. From what i've read, a lot of people in the states pretty much survive off tips.

The hourly wage is almost nothing for American waitstaff, almost always being significantly lower than minimum wage. This is because it is accepted that the vast majority of income will be in the form of tips. In most metropolitan areas, it is customary to pay approximately 15% tip for average service. In certain cities, the average tip rate is quite high, reaching almost 20%. It is considered to be bad etiquette to leave less than 10% even for below average service. Of course, atrocious service may garner 0% and a talk with the manager. Wait staff in exclusive, expensive restaurants can bring in surprisingly high incomes. Often times they deserve it, with the exceptional service they provide. Unfortunately, you have pretenders with zero work ethic who work at the mid to lower end. They feel entitled to a tip, rather than working for it. These are bums.

The problem with what you say though, #31 is that in the United States, it is federal law for the company to make up for the lack of tips. A waitress/waiter may make almost nothing, but if they don't make any tips the company has to make up the differences. So one way or another they WILL make *atleast* minimum wage. I only tip if someone gives me good service, if they give me shitty service they get nothing.

^^^false

If you're surviving on tips you can't be a particularly good business man/woman or very successful.

"put yourself in discomfort and do something that you don't necessarily want to do. " You've described almost every job in the world. THAT's your reasoning for tips? "Look at the economy. It SUCKS. So yes, even that little of a tip helps" Only the service industry is affected by the economy? I don't think so buddy. "whether that's buying food or buying gas to GET TO WORK." Wages should cover all of that, thats why there's a minimum wage. If they don't, then you aren't paying your employee's enough. "Maybe one day one of you tip haters should put yourselves in that position and see how it feels" I think everyone has been in that position at one point in their lives - almost always as teens, before we did grow up and realize how stupid it is to work at a job where you depend on tips. If you *own* a coffee shop and still depend on tips to *survive*, then I think your business model is failing, BADLY. Perhaps its time to grow up, learn from your mistakes, and move on.

Well aren't you something special! :) Kthnxbai!

if the business is still open then she is a good business person. the extra tips just helps make it easier to operate.

Thank you. I would like to point out I don't survive on tips, they pay for my gas and sometimes food. :) Hooray for bills!

Then why did you say tips help you survive? And #50, a business that's barely able to make ends meet is not a business, just a failed dream.

jeez if you have to put yourself in discomfort, and rely on tips...are you a dancer ? cos in any other case, there really isn't too much discomfort in receiving tips.

Answer a few questions for me. How long has my business been open? Do you know what it's like to run a business? Have you ever worked and received tips?

yeah i have known ppl that were delivery drivers that made shit wages...so tips are indeed important to make up for the deficit...but any tip is better than nothing

Again, it is federal law that minimum wage be paid. If the employee doesn't make minimum wage with tips included, the company HAS to pay the differences. If they aren't, then report them to the labor board.

AND Jimmy Johns does not have a delivery fee.