congratz*

damnyouautocorrect?

*congratulations bitch, where the Z come from?

I really don't know. I usually say congrats.... or congratulations for that matter.

it's tied down, fool

I think you mean get child support.

She won't get child support if she doesn't sue, in most cases like that, especially since they weren't married.

that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Thats total bullcrap!

Successful troll is successful?

Sooo I'm taking it you're single and perfectly content, because in the end it's the bromance that really makes you happy.....is that your point?

I live by this code

What if their condom broke?

simple- abortion

a 4 year relationship is commitment. Marriage does not offer a more secure relationship just one that costs more to get out of. If he is that easy to scare off marriage wouldn't have caged him would it?

Also, depending on where OP is from, condoms ARE NOT FREE. No contraceptive is 100% effective either and not everyone agrees with abortion. If I'd been with someone for 4yrs I'd be thinking about babies too. So there's every single one of your points blown straight out of the water.

says the one who doesn't have to do anything but grunt for a few minutes...

Also, abortions are not simple! They can be incredibly dangerous and leave you infertile if there are complications. So STFU.

No, four years of dating, regardless of whether it involved sex and/or was monogamous, is not a commitment. Marriage does offer a commitment. As has been demonstrated to the OP, and which you have not learned, it is far easier for one to just walk away from four years of dating than it is to leave a marriage. The interesting part of your comment is the "caging him" part. See, if a man WANTS to marry a woman, then he is not being caged. He is making a commitment to her and the relationship. That you think of marriage as "caging" someone shows how little you know about people and relationships. I am pretty sure you "caged" someone, then the relationship went to hell because of it and had a nice expensive divorce.

4 years is an element of time, marriage is legally binding. why would he need to be "caged" if it's something he wanted?

geeks- true, condoms may not be free but they're not hard to come by. should you wish to proceed in saying "she couldn't afford them" then she should have thought about how much a baby costs. then again she probably didn't think placing blame entirely to her. in fact here's another birth control method- oral and anal they are free regardless of your municipality. secondarily in the "developed and medically enlightened world" ( majority of north America and western Europe) an abortion can be triggered entirely by hormones were there complications and this woman became sterile I doubt the world would lose a genius taking in to account this woman's clear lack of planning, reasoning, and intelligence.

yeah I have to disagree here when there are people who have been married for a week tops. not a lot of commitment involved there.

But again I'd raise the point THEY'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 4 ******* YEARS!!! She obviously thought they'd be together for the long haul. If she'd got pregnant after a year or so I might see your point but 4 years is plenty long enough to plan a family!

@75 the caged part of my comment referred to the orignal comment in the thread that seemed to think marriage would have kept them together. If you need a marriage to make sure your partner doesn't cheat or leave you then you shouldn't be getting married in the first place. Four years is a long time all doubts should be gone and OP did nothing wrong having a baby in that time. I am in the same situation minus the bf leaving, and I do not feel like I am in a relationship where my partner could duck out at any time, I wouldn't have had a baby with him. If we got married I wouldn't magically be more in love with him or more committed to him. Marriage is a nice thing to do yes but your relationship should be a commited one before marriage.

If you are in the same situation, then you are a dumbass. If your b/f decided he wanted to date someone else, he could just pack his shit and leave. The best you could do is sue him for child support. And, that assumes he doesn't decide to completely disappear or move across the country and leave no forwarding address. Then, in order to sue him, you would need to find him first.

and what if we were married and he decided he wanted to be with someone else? He could still take his shit and leave and dissapear overseas. We wouldn't be divorced but we also wouldnt be together. Also I am not dating him, I am living with him, we past the dating stage about 3 months into the relationship. Grow up please and take a good long look at the world you are in, marriage is no more secure than a long term relationship.

oops didn't mean to give u a thumbs down. I totally agree with u there

youre living with someone after 3months??im sorry but you dont really know someone after 3months

84- why the **** is it only the woman's fault?! wouldn't it also be the mans fault to for sticking it on up there and not pulling out before his magic came out XD I see it 50-50 on the fault scale. :}

No, he isn't. He doesn't even have to pay anything unless she takes him to court. See, that is why women like you and the OP are idiots. You assume that he is tied down because he has a kid, but he really doesn't have to do anything except maybe cut a check once or twice a month. The OP, however, is tied down for at least the next 18 years if not the rest of her life. She has also made herself less desirable to other men and made dating harder for her and any man who is willing to date her.

well where I live if a women recieves child support from the dad then they will share custody of the child. So he would actually be tied down. :)

And 73 is very ignorant. I have seen so many single moms find a great guy that wants them.

They weren't great guys. Great guys don't stoop to raise someone else's kids. Only losers with no self-esteem do that. Now, those guys are stuck raising some asshole's child(ren) and probably not having any of their own. In fact there are only a handful of reasons a guy would want to be with a woman who has someone else's kids: he already has kids, doesn't want or can't have kids, is a child molester, or is too stupid or crazy to see the mistake he will be making.

Just stop talking EvilDave. You'd be doing us all a favor right now.

What is the matter? Don't you like hearing the truth about how you and your fellow women actually are? How women actually behave versus how you like to think you act? Sorry, but, no. I will continue to give you big, steaming plates of reality. If you don't like it, I don't give a damn.

Agreed! TRUE friends don't pull crap like that. I'm a guy, I never have done this.