Do we get three guesses where you stand on helmet laws doc? Personally I prefer motorcycles to bicycles on the roads, but I look at things from a traffic standpoint and not from the cleanup side of things.

Doc, some how I get the impression that Humpty Dumpty was a tramatic childhood story for you, or you took it as a personal challenge to save people and you hate losing to missing brain matter.

Drifter - They're both dangerous, but at least bicyclists don't go screaming past cars, weaving in and out of traffic. Kayak - I hate losing. Full stop.

I'm agreeing with yvwi on this one, at least in the UK, I've been cut up by people who shouldn't even be allowed near the wheel of a car. fact is, half the motorcyclists out there are the good guys.

lol @ 41

Yvwi - I knew this would bring you out of the woodwork. Keep on trollin'. Er, truckin'. No, I was right the first time.

Ah Doc, no need to hate on bikes, I can race around and weave in traffic just as well in my 4x4 that's lifted. Granted I can do more damage but bikes are fun too. It's all in the eye of the beholder though, so I do respect your point. and trucker, yea bicyclist unfortunately are speed bumps in the making, our road systems were not built with them in mind and they are posing a great risk to them selves and others.