I love you!

But, I don't believe in marriage! Shit, I'm gonna die a virgin... Wait, I already lost that a while back to my boyfriend of 3 years. Oops.

Well if you don't believe in marriage, that's your choice. If you're an adult and you feel like you could handle it if pregnancy or STDs ever came up, and you have no religious or moral reasons holding you back, then by all means, go right on ahead. Many people, however, don't think ahead and just let their hormones run wild. Then, some poor infant has to suffer the consequences of that.

I love pre-marital sex and abortions!!!!!!

I completely agree with everything that I think you said here...but sadly your grammar and spelling are both atrocious. Please try harder next time you post.

It's easy to not know, some girls don't get symptoms, and some don't think to go to the doctor, they just think maybe they have a bug or something. I got pregnant on condoms AND the pill, how's that for shitty? I knew almost immediately though, I was taking pregnancy tests for weeks, but they kept coming out negative. Finally, when I got a sonogram, I found out that I first thought I was pregnant a mere 3 days after conception. Some girls know very quick, and some people don't even know till they start showing. And a few rare cases don't even know that they're pregnant until they give birth.

Doesn't matter how many protection you use, if you use it incorrectly it is your fault. Taking the pill every other day instead of every day is not "being on the pill".

GO AWAY FOREIGNER

Turn off your caps lock and go **** a porcupine, you xenophobic piece of shit. This is a site created by a few French people for the English-speaking world. It looks to me like Foe is speaking English. You, on the other hand, appear to be speaking moron. She wins, you lose. **** off.

Few say this.

true.... sad huh?

It's a matter of opinion, but my opinion doesn't matter. What I think doesn't influence anybody, regardless of which side I choose.

Yayy!! I feel so...not alone!! Why does the rest of the world not have the decency and morals that you do? Sheesh!

116, I'm not going to pick sides in this debate, however; it is all opinion based and doesn't make someone stupid just because they have the opposite opinion to yours. As much as I'd like to applaud you for having your own morals, it doesn't make it wrong to disagree with you. PS: This isn't meant as a hateful message, I just wanted to point it out.

I never said someone with an opposing opinion was stupid. I feel like anyone with an opposing opinion might be ignorant, or perhaps just apathetic to the matter, but not stupid...unless perhaps they are a teenager. In which case I think it is incredibly stupid to be having sex as a teenager. I am saying this as someone who tried sex once as a teen and immediately thought I was an idiot for doing so. Do you understand or am I just spouting senseless rambles?

I think you're wording things wrong, Pixie. Of course you didn't say that people with an opposite opinion are stupid, but just because someone has a different point of view than yours, that doesn't make them ignorant or apathetic to the subject. You said "Why does the rest of the world not have the decency and morals that you do?", and I think that that's why Arraggatis assumed that you think it's wrong not to agree with you. The moral code is not the same everywhere, remember that morality is not determined by an objective set of rules of what is right or wrong, morality refers to what's considered right or wrong for people, it's subjective. Every society is different from one another, and what's immoral for one, might not be for another one. Just because someone doesn't share your view on the matter, that doesn't make them immoral or amoral.

I also never said that someone without my morals was immoral. I said "Why does the rest of the world not have the decency and morals THAT YOU DO?" Therefore, I was stating that they lacked morals that matched those of the person I was referring to, not that they had none at all. And actually, it does make them ignorant or apathetic. Ignorant because maybe they just are simply uneducated and do not know of all of the risks and responsibilities that come with sex. Apathetic because perhaps they do know, and just do not care about the consequences of their actions. Do you see some third option that I failed to list?

Of course, there's a third option! What about the people who are responsible and use protection when they have sex? If they know the risks they're taking and they're willing to deal with any of the possible consequences, why should they wait until marriage to have sex? Where do they fit, according to you? Are they ignorant or apathetic? I'm not going much further into this, because I'm definitely not trying to change your mind about anything. I'm just saying that just because someone doesn't have the same moral code as the one you have, it doesn't mean that they're wrong, ignorant or apathetic.

Yes, that's apathetic! What else would you call that? There's different forms of apathy. It could be a couple of idiots who don't care what happens and do it anyway. It could also be two mature adults that don't care if a baby comes because they feel ready for it. In both cases they are apathetic towards the risks. Duh?

According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, apathy is a lack of feeling or emotion, or a lack of interest or concern. Some people know the risks they're taking and are willing to deal with the consequences, but it doesn't mean that they can't be concerned about the risks they're taking, or that they don't show interest or emotions about it. So, what does marriage have to do with it? Just because a couple is married, it doesn't mean that they're ready to have kids, and just because they're not married, it doesn't mean that they're not ready to have kids.

If they are TRYING to have a baby, that is a different situation. However, if they are not TRYING then, yes, as I said, it is apathy. Lack of emotion is the same as saying that they do not care. They're thinking "if we have a baby, okay, we can deal with it. If not, okay, one less worry." Apathy.

I don't think you're seeing my point. If a couple has sex and they're using any type of birth control, they're not apathetic to the matter. Why? Because the simple fact that they're using birth control shows that they're concerned about the risks they're taking, if they weren't concerned or they didn't care, they wouldn't be using birth control in the first place. The use of birth control also shows that they are not ignorant because, again, they wouldn't be using birth control if they were ignorant about it. I don't see any point in this discussion, I'm not trying to change your mind and I'm certainly not changing my mind about it, so I'll just leave it at that.

It most certainly still is apathy. If they are concerned about it, they shouldn't be having sex at all. Birth control is not 100% effective, and it's even less effective if you don't use it properly. Most people use birth control because they know that they should, not because they actually care. If you actually care about not having children, you wouldn't be having sex, period. If you do care, and you are having sex, then I guess I was wrong, and there is a third option...stupidity.

And I really don't care if anyone's opinion is changed. I'll keep stating mine as long as it is questioned because it is something I am incredibly passionate about and I feel like there is no point in having an opinion if not to share it. Otherwise no one would hardly ever speak, ever.

What if this was a conversation about driving and car accidents, rather than sex and pregnancies. You know, just by being on the road, you're at risk of getting in a car accident. Same as just by having sex, you risk getting pregnant. Would you ever say "If they are concerned about car crashes, they shouldn't be driving at all." Sometimes people decide a risk is worth taking. That doesn't mean they aren't concerned about the consequences. When used correctly birth control is fairly effective. Effective enough for people to feel reasonably safe with it, just like people feel reasonably safe in the car. It's not 100%. Nothing is. (As a side note, good for you stating your opinion. You and I are in complete agreement on that. Opinions were made for sharing! :D )

My husband and I had been married for less than a year and I was on the pill and taking it properly not because we didn't want children but we just didn't want them right then and I got pregnant while taking the pill so you also need to think about the people who use birth control and it fails them because it certainly failed me but my husband and I love our son with all of our hearts and even if we hadn't been married we would have been fine having a child together so you need to think about things in a different perspective for once!!

#227... Everything you're saying just keeps further instilling my point of "apathy" #236... I know just what you mean. I was correctly using both birth control and condoms, and am ready to pop any day now with my first baby boy. #237... Being in possession of the same facts would make them apathetic to the consequences, as I had earlier stated. Ignorance would just simply be them being uneducated on the matter, which I stated was only one of two possible scenarios. I never said that everyone who uses birth control only does it because they should. A lot of people do, however. My best friend uses birth control just because it's there. If it's not there, oh well, she goes right on ahead anyways. I am listening to Sinkhole's points and am grateful that he keeps instilling what I've already said. He';s brought up common instances, but they still just fall under the categories I've already listed. You would already know this if you'd actually read what I had been writing. Obviously you haven't though, since you are making an argument against nothing. " you're right, and everybody who disagrees is ignorant and apathetic and has obviously not thought this subject out properly, or doesn't know all the facts" Ignorance and not knowing the facts are the same thing...point 1. Point 2, I said ignorant OR apathetic. Read next time. And to anyone who may read this and try to rebuttal anything I may ever say in the future, please, do me a favor...READ what I type before arguing with something that I did not say. It is just a waste of time for me to keep having to remind people that they are putting words into my mouth. If I didn't say it, don't argue with it.

You are so ******* annoying (@Acousticpixiewhatever) Literally never been on a comments page where I have so badly wanted to shoot someone while having only read a few words of their comments. Did you REALLY need to post so many times on the same page? Get a life.

#242... I'm nine months pregnant and on bed rest. I have no life :P

Well my comment in response to #243 ended up at the bottom of the page...

Pixie- I have 'READ' everything you have said, and all I have to say is damn, you're stupid and very contradictive. The two words that you've repeated nonstop are describing yourself.