By oldshitnewshit - 22/10/2013 21:11 - United States
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Looking at the comments I see we've got some seriously mixed opinions about me. So, first off: Hi, I'm Juniper, I'm 23 and I'm in art school in the US. I have never tried LSD or any other kind of "hardcore" drug before this. My friend had some tabs that he had used before and asked me if I wanted to try it. I agreed, only after doing extensive research, and determining that the risk was one I was willing to take. During that research, I stumbled across some beautiful works of people who had done art under the influence and thought perhaps I could have some fun trying that as well. I'm an art student and always open to new things. My parents were also hardcore hippies back in the day, and they've told me about their psychedelic experiences. I knew my risks. I have no plans to take LSD again, although I'm not currently suffering any adverse effects aside from water tasting kinda metallic for the next 24 hours (this took place about a week ago.) And the FML is actually not entirely true, but exaggerated for comedic effect. The paranoia and muttering did not last the entire time, only about 15-30 minutes. My entire trip lasted about 9-10 hours. One of my friends decided to remove the easel when she saw that it was making me upset. I think its large, angled presence in the room was off-putting. I actually spent the majority of my time having a good trip, my friends took great care of me. And despite not touching my canvas, I made some radical drawings. I did my research, I knew my risks, I set myself up responsibly. I'm not looking for sympathy or support– I just thought I'd share my kinda funny story. Those of you who are calling me an idiot are entitled to your opinions, but you're not insulting a wall. I'm a human being that makes choices for myself. Those of you who abstain from drugs, you should be proud! That's wonderful and healthy, but please allow and do not judge me for my own choices. My experimental phase is not harmful or offensive to you. And to my fellow art junkies: I wasn't expecting to create a masterpiece, this was for fun. I'm a learning artist!
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So stupid hope you keep to art and never try to get a job for the government cuz now you'll never get hired
People who use illegal drugs and think they aren't harming anyone else are misinformed. You, and people like you allow gun toting thugs who push this poison on children to thrive.
Youre so right. Anyone who smokes pot, takes lsd and any kind of illegal drug is some gang banger. I hope you have children who grow up to be ignorant little ***** :)
so narrow minded!!!
126-Who said anything about users carrying guns,? and you're so right, all those strung out 12 year old's should have known better. When a stray bullet hits them and ends their life they should have known better then to play outside, right? 130- No, they're doctors, lawyers, and even presidents. 142- What hippies?
found the soccer-mom. are you going to wait for your kids to leave and then light up a doobie?
No, you're thinking of bud toting scrubs.
Perhaps that is the experience you are meant to paint about.
Dude...LSD never leaves your body. You've just ruined your life.
Actually, LSD is not addictive. Please don't lie to us again.
You seem to be part of the people that believe the "drug monster" story. Please, kill yourself
Looking at the comments I see we've got some seriously mixed opinions about me. So, first off: Hi, I'm Juniper, I'm 23 and I'm in art school in the US. I have never tried LSD or any other kind of "hardcore" drug before this. My friend had some tabs that he had used before and asked me if I wanted to try it. I agreed, only after doing extensive research, and determining that the risk was one I was willing to take. During that research, I stumbled across some beautiful works of people who had done art under the influence and thought perhaps I could have some fun trying that as well. I'm an art student and always open to new things. My parents were also hardcore hippies back in the day, and they've told me about their psychedelic experiences. I knew my risks. I have no plans to take LSD again, although I'm not currently suffering any adverse effects aside from water tasting kinda metallic for the next 24 hours (this took place about a week ago.) And the FML is actually not entirely true, but exaggerated for comedic effect. The paranoia and muttering did not last the entire time, only about 15-30 minutes. My entire trip lasted about 9-10 hours. One of my friends decided to remove the easel when she saw that it was making me upset. I think its large, angled presence in the room was off-putting. I actually spent the majority of my time having a good trip, my friends took great care of me. And despite not touching my canvas, I made some radical drawings. I did my research, I knew my risks, I set myself up responsibly. I'm not looking for sympathy or support– I just thought I'd share my kinda funny story. Those of you who are calling me an idiot are entitled to your opinions, but you're not insulting a wall. I'm a human being that makes choices for myself. Those of you who abstain from drugs, you should be proud! That's wonderful and healthy, but please allow and do not judge me for my own choices. My experimental phase is not harmful or offensive to you. And to my fellow art junkies: I wasn't expecting to create a masterpiece, this was for fun. I'm a learning artist!
Still doing extreme drugs, but at least you did your research. I voted both.
Exploring your world and everything in it is a perfectly normal human behavior. I have done LSD on multiple accounts, and I've only had a couple bad experiences. I'm not a psychologist, but your experience DOES sound as if it is a cue to an underlying issue you haven't properly taken care of yet. Meditate on your experience, and upon your recent experiences in life. Should help shed some light and open your mind to what may or may not be right in your life right now. Best of luck.
There is no possible amount of research that could convince a reasonable person that it is safe to take LSD. Where did you get your information from, the Internet? I think I spotted the problem. Good luck not getting one-dose HPPD for the rest of your life, too. Some artists make artwork under the influence. Most don't. Most, in fact, do exactly what you did, or worse. It's <i>unusual</i> for LSD artwork to exist; it comes from a rare mental state in which it's actually possible to still do art while tripping. You basically just strapped hundred-pound weights to your mental muscles and tried to run a sprint because it would have been cool if you could manage it. The Bo Jackson of art you ain't. Think about it this way. Some writers write great novels while they're three sheets to the wind for six continuous months, too, but I don't recommend deliberately trying it to improve your writing. It's not the probability of taking LSD given that you've made great art that you should be concerned with -- it's the probability of making great art given that you've taken LSD, which is a hell of a lot lower. Tell your doctor you did this at your next checkup. He may want you to keep an eye on any possible symptoms.
LSD aint shit smoke you some demsta and paint you a picture like the grays lol funny fml society seems to be so against drugs. Doesn't matter what these fools think good shit though trying new things, LSD is something most people should try once as it is perfectly safe and at most can scare you( unless you're predisposed to schizophrenia..then dont try it) It's a site made to judge people so you're gonna be judged no avoiding that but don't let it phase you. Most people on this site are fools.
@141 that comment is probably the number one argument against doing any kind of drug that you've ever done. I was going to try whatever that stuff is you said, but after attempting to read that comment, it's clear that stuff messes up your brain, unless you were like that before taking drugs.
Ha! yeaa.. just read my comment and it was written pretty poorly :/ I guess next time I promote drug culture I'll take more time to make some sense. Im still waking up, forgive me. Until then I'll just say listen to a couple Leary speeches for a better take on the subject. Btw the stuff I mentioned "demstas" or DMT is naturally produced in your body and you trip of it everytime you dream.
Also, I agree with you many drugs **** up your brain. And yes, my brain has most definitely been effected(or is it affected. . idk too many drugs I guess) negatively by my usage, but thats not to say all drugs are the same. Research has been in progress for decades now and besides inducing problems you already have no negative effects have been found.
You should upload the drawings and shoot me a URL because I want to see them!
no offense...but this is the interwebz, you set yourself up to be mocked, stop being butthurt and caring about what thousands of faceless pixels have to say about your story. Just look at their comments and laugh your ass off when you are selling your paintings for loads of money and they don't have jack...
Nothing wrong with a little experimentation, everyone's experimented with something at some point.
I've done lsd a few times and really enjoyed it which is why I don't do it anymore my mother was an alcoholic so I probably have a predisposition to addiction so I try to stay away from the ones I like to avoid it instead of lsd try shrooms I've been told you can't have a "bad trip" but I don't believe that it's probably possible but not likely I've always been very happy the few times I got mushrooms. if you want to give it another go try them instead
#159 You can just use impact in place of effect and affect.
It's just like people you've never met to whine about you like your doings affect them in some way, shape, or form, when in all actuality it has no effect on their personal lives and they just want to bitch for attention. I have never done drugs. I've smoked weed, but have not done chemically made drugs. Unless it effects you negatively PHYSICALLY IN PERSON, you shouldn't care if someone else does them. It's not your business
Ah, Dr. Hofmann's problem child. Alex Grey is a good example of art under the influence of LSD. Its not about painting while on LSD, its more about what visions you extract from the experience. Pay no mind to the ignorant. Any chance I could see some of your work, I am especially curious about those drawings.
#174 kinda makes me want to choke myself.
I'd have done the same thing OP. I really think some people make way too big a deal about drugs. How many people that take drugs responsibly actually die? A majority of the problem is long term use and overdosing, which happens because sadly they're addictive and people have no self control. That being said, I lean towards natural drugs myself (weed ect), because some of the more hard core things are things I just don't want in my body.
Taking insults and responding, like a sir.
Back in high school my husband used to do LSD on a regular basis. He is a musician and he didn't take LSD to get creative, but often times he would come up with some really interesting music while on LSD. So there is truth in that. He also told me that the first trip on LSD is often the worst. I'm not an advocate for drugs in any way shape or form, but I'm not going to talk down to you because you decided to try it and decided, "Hey, what the heck, might as well set up my art supplies while I do it to see if I do anything cool." Unlike most of the people posting a response to your FML, I realize you didn't take it to get inspiration or because you were expecting to make a killer painting, you just wanted to see what sort of thing you could do while on it. It's not like you were falling back on drugs to make good art and the people assuming that are stupid.
Last I checked LSD is not actually legal unless you have a DEA license. So not the best idea to post this on a public site. Also even wikipedia tells you commenters there have been deaths while people have used LSD. Some of you overlook the fact that if you are doing something under the influence that means that drug is in fact influencing you behavior. Glad you were in a safe environment because bad trips are no fun in an unknown environment.
#257, heroin is a natural drug. If you don't believe me, ask the Afghan poppy farmers.
Clearly you didn't do your research, or you would know that drugs are bad, mkay?
Don't do drugs kids ~
That's cool OP, and you only live once. You used it in the most responsible way possible, but sadly had a bad trip, which happens. Might I suggest 'shrooms? I have an artist friend who swears by them, and I've seen a lot of his work both sober and stoned, and it's just beautiful. I'm a writer, and I love writing under weed, it really helps the creativity flow. Good luck in your future endeavors, and don't let the haters drag you down.
Sounds kinky
You are seriously ****** up for thinking you need drugs to create art.
Way to read, genius. It was merely an experiment, one of those, "Hm, x has happened before, let's see what happens when I recreate the experiment". It is science applied to art, which should never be discouraged.
Again, no one ever stated the NEED. It was experimentation, not some "necessity". Learn to read, hun.
please explain to me where OP said the words "I needed the drugs" no? couldnt find it? BECAUSE!, its not in there.
Hi fuckshit, OP didn't NEED it, and just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it effects anyone else cause they can do whatever they want with their life. OP is probably an awesome artist but as clearly stated wanted to experiment so keep your close minded opinions to yourself thanks
you do realize a lot of famous artists (including musicians) were on drugs right? this isn't like OP was the only one
wow, so much misinformation here. lsd is not addictive. lsd does not kill people. you do not have a 50/50 chance of having a bad trip. it does not stay in your body forever. it does not damage your brain. it si a powerful mind changing chemical, that used properly can help break addictions and other harmful behavior, give insight into the self and the world, and engender feelings of love and belonging. used improperly it can scare the shit out of you, it can rewrite those very behaviors you wanted to change, and if you dont be careful you could wander into traffic
The government experimented with using LSD as a mind control agent.
i've known many many many people who used this regularly over the years. myself included. not one suicide in the bunch.
173: That isn't the drugs fault. LSD doesn't contain some substance that will make you kill yourself. That's the persons fault, not the drug. People can eat too much junk and die, should we ban junk food too?
Op says, "Don't judge me" but puts up her stupid story for the world to read, lol. Drugs are stupid. There are plenty of (safe, legal) ways to live life to the fullest without risk of harm. Drugs are for low lives. If you don't think better of yourself, why should we?
better put that caffeine down if drugs are for lowlives. and that aspirin for your headache....
Caffeine and nicotine are both just as (if not more addictive) than heroin. So the comparison is legit.
Legal =/= safe. Caffeine is a drug, nicotine is a drug, aspirin (Bayer),ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin) and acetomenphine (Tylenol) are all drugs. All of which if taken incorrectly will harm you and can possible even be fatal. Then there is alcohol, which does more damage to people, property and lives than all other drugs combined. All of those are legal and don't even require a doctors script. LSD, if taken with precaution is as safe as any of those. To the poster who mentioned HPPD; the clinical data suggests that occurs in between 0.66-1.0% of users. So all this fear and judgement is based on misinformation. The clinical data doesn't support the claims.
Painkillers can kill you. Almost all prescription and some nonprescription drugs can in some way. I've read LSD can't kill you and I KNOW marijuana can't, yet both those are illegal.. Legal doesn't make it safe. Practice what you preach.
I think the comparison to headache medicine is fair look up the deaths from Tylenol yearly the numbers are crazy...now compare that to illegal drug related deaths you might just be surprised.
I get it u have no friends so you trash on people's happiness
It's no different at all, weed was illegal for now long before it's medical purposes were reveled? Cocaine used to be prescribed to help people just like OxyContin was. Point in case, ANY drug can be dangerous if you're uneducated about it/use it wrong. Also, no one said anything about soda, caffeine is in tea too, and the frap from Starbucks that you love sooooo much? It's in there too, drugs are all around us, so before you call anyone a moron, think about everything you've ever put in your body, chances are you've taken some form of drugs at one time or another. OP, I'm personally proud of you, you did your research an determined that it was a risk you were willing to take, you used your brain, instead of listening to what you were being force fed by the media. Good on you.
Aspirin can't kill you can take as many as you want and you won't overdose. Comparing caffeine to heroine is a little far fetch,heroine kills but I respect the creativity op was going for. It's all about what works for you.
Ever hear of Reye Syndrome? Aspirin CAN kill. All meds should be taken according to directions, not "as many as you want." People DO, in fact, overdose on acetaminophen and ibuprofen, and NO drug is safe in larger-than-recommended doses. All drugs have side effects and no drug is 100% safe for you, especially when used frequently. Go be an asshat somewhere else, 254.
No I'm good but thanks :) for the suggestion it was MUCH appreciated. @272
Reye's syndrome is a potentially fatal disease that has numerous detrimental effects to many organs, especially the brain and liver, as well as causing a lower than usual level of blood sugar (hypoglycemia).[1] The classic features are a rash, vomiting, and liver damage. The exact cause is unknown and, while it has been associated with aspirin consumption by children with viral illness, it also occurs in the absence of aspirin use.
Aspirin can't kill someone? Maybe you should read the safety notices included with every dingle box whether it be a cheap generic knockoff or Bayer branded. There is no medication that is 100 % safe. Period.
254 - you are a ******* moron, of course you can OD on aspirin. If you have certain underlying medical conditions you can even die from taking it at recommended does.
Aw, look!! She can cut and paste from WebMD. Try a reliable source next time. Oh, and maybe next time, you should make sure you understand what it says before you post it.
Hey at least I can cut and paste I got something going for me
Awwwww your sooo sweet
U sound mad :)
Yup I sure can
@196; I think calling people lowlives or morons over the internet is silly. You should take some weed to chill out, man.
Caffeine is only bad for your body if you sit there and drink it all day long
just Google "famous people that did drugs" you will find its not only for low lives. also bill gates and Steve jobs both did LSD just to name a few
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Drugs are harmful for you regardless of how 'safe' the environment is perceived to be.
Apparently it wasn't a very safe environment if even your easel is evil.