Please never marry.

Oh yes, miraculously born into an abusive household where her mother has to live in fear of her father because he will use violence to get what he wants. Prayz tha lawrd.

Well, OP survived her father's intensely ******-up logic and wasn't miscarried as a result of the beating. So it's a miracle in a medical sense, not in a religious sense.

We need more people like you

This is a very insightful comment. Thanks.

Your comment is very well put. That is the most important thing to remember for OP. I'm definitely unsure how I'd feel or react in their shoes.

That's a tough one to choose. Maybe we all should just be tube babies haha.

In most situations, you can compromise without people getting hurt. "I want pizza, you want Mexican... Let's take turns picking where to eat." You want to go to Paris, I want to go to Italy... But with a baby and being pregnant, the cost to the woman is greater than to the man. If I ever fell pregant, I would have an abortion. I would talk it out with my partner, but I wouldn't "compromise" my health and body to give birth to a child I didn't want. It just isn't as easy as "lets compromise." On top of the guy beating the shit out of her. I don't think that sort of abuse comes out of the walls. So maybe she wanted an abortion to get away from the guy. I just think with pregnancy, there is never going to be an equal say in it because one person holds all the power.

I knew I'd get downvoted, because people want to automatically cry that we want to control a woman's body. when that's not the case, for me anyways. But, in this case, if the roles were reversed, or if I was in that situation, I would be devastated and pissed if my partner killed our future baby despite my wishes. She had no right to make that decision for the both of them, it takes two to make a baby. The father was wrong for beating her, and the mother was wrong for ignoring his wishes. BOTH of them were wrong. They BOTH should have handled the situation better. They should have been more responsible about birth control, and talking about the risk of getting pregant before having sex, and talking about whether they wanted children and such. No, not everyone does that, but its a smart move and it keeps shit like this from happening. If people were more responsible we'd have less problems. And by "Less" I'm referring to the ones that are actually preventable so don't bitch at me about rape or failed contraception, I'm aware of it.

It's just the fact that being pro life always implies that you'd rather the baby live, regardless of the woman's choice. That is what pro life is. Personally, I feel that it is up to the woman herself. No one else even gets a say. At all. I and everyone else is supposed to shut up, smile, and support her, in whatever choice she makes.

Yep, totally ignore a person's right to control their body, regardless of the physical, emotional, and mental issues that could arise from the duress of being literally forced to carry a fetus to term. Never mind that the child could wind up growing up hated, unloved, abused or neglected because strangers who will never meet or care for the child think that a child surviving to term and being unwanted is 'kinder' than letting someone control their own body.

71—abortion has been around since humans have been around. It will continue to exist as long as humans exist. There is even evidence that some animals seek out and use abortive substances. When people seek to make abortion illegal, or difficult to obtain, it forces women to seek out dangerous and unsanitary abortions, which can lead to serious health implications for the woman. If you truly care about life, advocate for thorough, in-depth health and sex education in all schools, as well as affordable and accessible birth control.

Ok first of all thank you for proving my point about attacking pro-lifers. Let me phrase my response like this: I do not disagree that a woman has a right to choose what to do with her body, I do not hate those that get one nor have I ever spoken down to one that have gotten one. If you have sex you are taking the risk of pregnancy, especially if you don't use protection, be it condoms, birth control or the day after pill. Moving on, to the kids growing up unwanted and unloved. You are not forced to raise the child once it's born you can and should put it up for adoption, there are plenty of people out there myself included who would be happy to adopt them. You can't just assume that if they are born there lives are going to be worthless if born to someone who doesn't want them. These are just my opinions and views on this issue. I don't think women don't have a right to decide what goes on with their bodies, but I also think every potential person has a right to be born into this world and make of it as they will. So basically I love life so much I can't stand the thought of the premature end to it. I know a lot of you may hate me for my views and I can accept that.

116, I understand that and I think we need good sex education available to everyone just like easily accessible birth control options. I advocate for planned parenthood, just not the abortion part, regardless if abortion has been around for a long time.

"Attacking" =/= "Making highly valid and relevant observations about the fallacies that Anti-Choicer use to defend their beliefs." Saying that every life has the right to be born is in fact taking the choice away from the gestating parent. As for adoption having "plenty" of willing would-be parents, the overpopulation of children in need of adoption says otherwise. That is without the added strain of the children that would result from people being forced or coerced into carrying a fetus to term to put it up for adoption. There are enough children that get stuck in group homes, overpopulated homes used by people to get government fiscal backing, children up for adoption of fostering are at higher risk of abuses of all kinds, and have a higher risk of emotional disorders. Also, stop your false martyrdom about "Pro-life" people being attacked. "Pro-life" views and beliefs are designed around denying a group a choice about their own bodies, their own health, and their own wellbeing. If you think 'every life' deserve to be born and think that people shouldn't be allowed to have abortions- which is what being "pro-life" is defined by- because of that belief or that they should be shamed for the choice, which you heavily imply, then you aren't "Pro-life" you are "antichoice." The entire belief that people should not have the right to choose what to do about their own body is an attack on an entire group. So stop trying to sound like people who are anti-choice get harassed in the street or attacked. Because not only do they not, but they, and you, attack everytime you say someone shouldn't have the right to choose. Oh, and so called "pro-life supporters" are more likely to physically attack and harm pro choice people than the other way around.