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By sassman - 01/12/2009 19:49 - United States

Today, I was in class. I am an older student going back for my PhD. I was kicked out of class for "sassing" my instructor for telling him he was wrong about what took place at an event I was actually present at. My instructor is a 22 year old TA. FML
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You deserved it 4 281

Same thing different taste

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He needs a whuppin'. Tell him to cut you a switch. Back in your day, people didn't take this kind of crap!

More proof that TA's are TA's for a reason: They don't know shit and the only reason they got to be TA is because they kissed a lot of ass to get there.

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My reaction to this is dependant upon how you acted. I've never personally had probs with mature aged students, but I have heard SO many stories from friends where mature age students have acted like total know-it-alls because they've had more life experience or whatever. Maybe you were right, but if you did it in a way that humiliated the instructor or sounded up yourself, you deserved it. Having said that, if you were polite and humble, then you didn't. However if it was classed as "sassing" you must have done more than a simple correction. Also, it's possible that just because you were present at an event it doesn't necessarily mean you know all the details about it. I can't say coz I don't know what event you're talking about, but often the "history books" (so to say) have more insight into an event than the people who were actually there at the time. Having said that, if it was a matter of fact (eg. Person X spoke at Event X, or Person Y blew up Building Y) then that sort of thing wouldn't apply.

yourkiddingright_fml 0

Interesting for to say the History books know more; didn't you know "history" was and still is written by whomever wins! I am not just talking about wars!!! I would take the word of someone who was at an event over anything written in a text by someone who "researched" the event!

lotusflower007 0

You probably challenged his authority, and he can't have you walking all over him for the whole semester. Then other students would start challenging his authority.

I once got in trouble for sassing my teacher too, about some animal classification stuff. Then again, I was in 6th grade lol... I didn't act like a know-it-all though, I was just trying to say "Well... actually..." But now I might be wrong since they're switching around some stuff in Felidae (the sassing was about whether cougars were small or big cats, and he kept thinking small = domestic...). Unless they've finished that, but I really haven't kept up so eh.

"Well, actually," in the middle of class IS acting like a know-it-all. NOT acting like a know-it-all is talking to the teacher after class about it, and having a not-public discussion. The teacher will be more likely to listen to what you have to say - and agree with you, if he/she is wrong.

No no, more relunctantly, hence the dots. I'm really not an easy talker, never was, so it's difficult for me to find my quiet excuse for "saying something" as being a know-it-all. [shrugs] I don't see how talking to them in public is doing it, either, but I know it's disrespectful that I will agree with. I was a kid then, though.

I've been in many classes where a student has managed to politely correct the teachers and most sensible teachers, although embarrassed by their mistake, are usually more embarrassed that they almost misinformed their students. Quite a few times the teachers have been thankful to the student and even given them a bonus mark. One girl that corrected our grade 11 history teacher was given an exemption on our next test. The way she corrected him was kind of cute because she was terrified and she just raised her hand and stammered "I'm sorry for interrupting, and excuse me if I am wrong and I may very well be, so I am so sorry if I am, but I thought that it was...". There are polite ways of doing things, and it's not always helpful to other students if you wait until after class.

I would have kept quiet to stay in his good books, but you didn't deserve getting kicked out

Being a 3rd year Ph.D. student who has both taken classes at the graduate level who had TAs and being a TA myself for undergraduate and professional students, to the morons who think that graduate level classes do not have TAs should jump off a bridge because they fail at life and clearly do not know what they are talking about.

0mggirl 0

Of course, graduate courses need TAs. However, the OP is commenting that the TA is also the instructor for the course. A 22 year old TA is most likely straight out of undergrad and a first year grad student, I doubt any respectable university is going to have a 1st year grad student teach other graduate students. Would you, as a 3rd year student, want to be taught by a 1st year grad student?

Dump_fml 0

Why wait until after class? Even if he agrees it's a waste as he'll probably never correct the mistake. He's a jerk if he can't handle someone questioning him.

TA's really annoy me sometimes. Next time, tell him to respect his elders.

you don't have the right to be sassy. you can respectfully tell him differently, but don't be an ass about it. I'd kick you out too if you're being sassy. now if you weren't, discuss it with him privately lik grown men, and if that doesn't work, then talk to the dean. but come on man, for someone going fo a Phd I think that you'd know better. and I don't even have my ba yet!

Hmm, either you acted badly towards him or your teacher is still a bit young