The shock collar doesn't hurt the dog, and it's not like they're enslaving the dog, it's just so the dog doesn't run away and get hurt badly. have you ever been shocked by a dog collar? Unless it's a Great Dane or some large dog the shock doesn't hurt, even for the dog it's just a pinch.

Not if you're lazy.

If your too lazy to train your dog, don't adopt one in the first place.

Some dogs will not listen to stay in the yard. Hence the need for a shock collar. And you actually have to train the dog still with a shock collar. You don't just put it on the dog and throw him outside for a free-for-all. You are suppose to walk your dog around the perimeter for AT LEAST two weeks so he/she knows what the fence is. And on the third week you still walk the dog but you let them free range on the leash and if they pass the fence and get vibrated by it they know better for next time.

My dogs just never left the yard. If they started to head towards the road we'd call them back. Within a week they learned.

I'll say this for the millionth, and definitely not last, time: DOGS ARE NOT CHILDREN!

No but both are living creatures with feelings and understand pain.

Do you also not eat meat because of the inhumane treatment of the animals? Because, by your standard (living creatures with feelings and understand pain), the treatment of cows, pigs and chickens should be held to the same standards as children as well and no "self respecting person" would do anything to perpetuate anything less including eating the meat that fuels the industry. I'm just curious.

yeah some dogs totally need to be cruelly shocked instead of being trained not to do something shock collars are just a way to train a dog with fear and pain I would never use a shock collar on my dog and I don't know anybody who would consider using it on their dog

My neighbours had one for their dog and he would still bark with it on he was so bored and lonely.

Sorry to hear that, generally I don't think they should be used for a dog that's just barking. My parents own a security company and our dogs are police dogs that do need them while training, they don't hurt though, I've seen them just shake it off and continue messing about because they're just stubborn and tough bastards.

I suggest your family gets a little better at working with dogs. Thousands of people train all sorts of dogs without them, so the problem isn't the dog, it's the trainer.

There are many ways to train dogs, some more effective than others. Shock collars are just another way of training. They immediately tell the dog that they were doing something wrong without hurting it.

it's always ok to mistreat something or someone else as long as it's not you but when you're put in their place I bet you wouldn't consider shock collars ok then