By smallpaycheck - 16/08/2009 00:49 - United States

Today, I was working at a shoe store and was helping a dude try on shoes. He looked like trouble and I wanted to finish with him. When he finally picked his shoes, he abruptly stood up and ran out of the store with the shoes on. The cost of them was deducted from my salary. $240. FML
I agree, your life sucks 51 041
You deserved it 4 069

Same thing different taste

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season4reason 0

there's no way he can deduct the cost of the shoes from your salary.....there is no way you can be held accountable for theft unless you were letting him try the shoes on right next to the exit of the store or w/e but even then, theft of store items should be reported and should be covered by the stores insurance policy.....next time, dont wither so easily under your boss and stand up for yourself......

when you are not at work, get a friend to have the boss wait on him. get the most expensive pair of shoes and run off with them on.

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Bullshet 0

Why was it deducted from your salary? They were stolen, and should be reported to the cops. Your boss can't do that.

Ask to see your contract of employment and see if there is a section in there detailing pay and allowances, which should also cover issues like this (usually it says something about the company being able to bill you for things you're directly responsible for, such as breakages or loss through negligence). If you work for a chain/franchise, contact the HR department at the head office and ask what the stance is on staff responsibility for stolen goods. I imagine your manager is trying to avoid filing an insurance claim here for the sake of his reputation or to avoid an extra premium if this isn't the first time lax security has caused problems. FYL, either way.

Bullshit. I work in a shoe store in Massachusetts. If the property is stolen, you DO NOT pay it. The only reason you would pay for merchandise is if you rang it in wrong or something else entirely blamed on you. Because you obviously didn't tell the guy to steal it or he didn't tell you he was stealing it, you cannot be docked for that fee. This FML is a total FAKE. Next time, realize there are people from MA who work in shoe stores that read this you twit.

#33, whether or not you pay for stolen property is determined in store policy, not state law. State law, as defined by Massachusetts General Law chapter 231 section 85R, holds the thief responsible for damages, but if the thief isn't caught, store policy could blame the employee. It also could be a lazy or bad manager, as others have stated. Quit being such a child in calling out fakes. It's only worth commenting "bullshit" and "FAKE" etc. if the event itself is impossible, not if you think it's dumb.

1.) A store where shoes cost $240/pair is most likely on Newbury Street or in one of the major shopping districts. This isn't Famous Footwear we're talking about. And I would know, I work in a shoe store on Newbury Street where shoes top $500. 2.) A shoe that is over $100, even in such department stores as Macy's and JcPenney only have one on display. As a salesperson, you get out one shoe, they try them on and they can buy them that way. The only way they can get TWO pairs of shoes is after they pay for them. 3.) Going along with #1, any shoe store that has highly priced merchandise also has the best security system. For instance, the store next to mine (aka: Burberry) has security guards. Therefore, they would have a clear view of the perpetrator, therefore the sales associate would not be docked that much money. 4.) In Massachusetts, as I stated, an employee cannot be docked for a theft unless it is fully proven by records (as well as police statements) that is their fault. For instance, if he gave the customer the shoes without said customer paying for it, it does fall on him. However, employees in Massachusetts are protected under such laws. He cannot possibly be docked $240 for the loss of a product. Unless he marked the product as sold, he cannot be held responsible for the act of a sole individual. An employee cannot automatically be docked his pay for this incident. It has to go through the courts and, especially in Massachusetts, it can take up to a couple months for this to happen. Also, in Massachusetts, an employer cannot lawfully dock a paycheck because of a theft, no matter what the store policy is. That employee has worked those hours therefore he has the right to the money he has earned. Any 'docking' of a paycheck must be done after the check has been cashed and there must be legal documentation in order to do so. They cannot take it out of the check, it's completely illegal and the company processing the checks wouldn't do it. So don't jump to conclusions that I know nothing about situations like this. The same situation I mentioned before had all of this proceeding it.

your entire argument (of the manager's reaction) is based on what MA law is. Isn't stealing illegal as well? So didn't we just prove that just because something's the law, it doesn't always come to fruition that way? Let me break it down for you. 1) Stealing is illegal. 2) An employee being charged for stolen or broken merchandise, which is found outside of their fault, is illegal. So let's look at the situation. 1) there was a thief (so rule 1 was broken). 2) Perhaps the manager didn't follow the law either. OMG WHAT PEOPLE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW!?!?

Unless the manager is making the employee work without clocking in, almost any chain retailer and most upscale privately owned shops are going to have computerized payroll software that updates to a (usually independent) central processing center where the taxes are calculated and the paychecks are cut. When I worked retail in PA, our checks were actually cut in KY. This is why the checks are always a pay period behind. So unless the manager is changing the employee's clock in/out times to reflect the difference and hoping corporate doesn't notice the unaccounted for pair during inventory or the discrepancies in man-hours versus projected sales, there is no way for the store to refuse to pay, as the previous poster has already stated. I'm thinking either the manager is bluffing rather than issuing a writeup (if the store has a policy of only bringing out one shoe at a time or some other policy that was violated. As a side note, they've always let me see both the shoes, but only bother to lace up the right shoe) or the OP just tacked that part onto the end to sweeten the FML.

If you had chased him and fought the shoes back from him he probably would have sued you for assault or something so what were you supposed to do?? The shop can't blame you for him stealing them. You can't babysit customers all the time .

For shoes that price would you happen to work in a Red Wing? The guys that shop there are lumberjacks and 7 foot tall construction workers that chew steel instead of gum. I'd probably let them run out with the shoes and take the deducted pay in exchange for having all my bones still intact.

russianspy1234 11

Trip over something in his store, make sure you break something, and then have your medical costs deducted from his salary.

Jennydew 0

That's wrong! It's not like you knew he would run out of the store with the shoes on. Your boss can't deduct that from your paycheck. I wouldn't have let him do it.

A lot of people are saying that you shouldn't have let your boss deduct the cost from your paycheck. But you can still get the money back, even if this was months ago. If you contact your state Department of Labor, they'll tell you what your options are. If you are a member of a union, contact your shop steward. If you are not a member of the union, contact a union (for example, the UFCW) and tell them about the situation. Most unions will be happy to give you at least a little advice. I'm sure some people here have had bad experiences with unions, but they are almost all good at knowing the rules employers have to follow and the procedures for fixing the situation when they break the rules. Your customer stole from your employer, but your employer stole from you. Don't let them get away with it. It's not too late to get it back.