Ah-ha, this is where that irritating United Methodist bitch from the other FML post was trying to reply!! She just doesn't know how to use the computer. Now that we know the bible beaters are firmly on board for this post, has anyone started the tangential conversation about gay marriage for no reason whatsoever here yet? That usually follows within about 10 minutes of a post about sex before marriage. OP: Get a lawyer and bleed this mother ****** dry for every cent you can in child support. He obviously isn't in this for the long haul if he is kicking you to the curb after a few weeks without sex. I mean, really, you have to expect at least a month of jerking off after your wife/girlfriend gives birth - what is wrong with this dickweed!

What does this have to do with gay marriage???? FWIW, I don't have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is people who don't think actions have consequences. (God...I sound old). Last paragraph I totally agree with. Time to make him bleed. His actions have consequences, too.

Okay. You are barking up the wrong tree here. Whether or not the OP and her boyfriend were married is COMPLETELY irrelevant because they now have a child. They now have an obligation to each other and to their child that has nothing to do with their legal or moral standing. Allow me to point out that (1) it does not bother many men to MARRY a girl if they believe they can control her; (2) it does not bother many men to cheat on their WIFE when they can't get what they want, because they are little impatient children with no sense of loyalty or respect; and (3) a piece of paper doesn't make a family. I am wholeheartedly in favor of waiting until marriage. I think it's the best. But it's no guarantee of ANYTHING. Personally, I think the OP is unlucky to have had a child with this cretin, and lucky that she isn't bound to him legally. He obviously feels no moral obligation to her at all, and if you honestly believe having a marriage certificate on their wall would change that, you're an idiot. He's a creep whether he's her boyfriend or her husband. It doesn't change the situation.

aupilot, i'm afraid i'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Whether or not the couple are married is irrelevant for a number of reasons, firstly, she was with the guy for 4 years, she would've have a fairly good idea about how much of a dick he is therefore, being stupid enough to stay with him for that amount of time and have his child, means she would have been stupid enough to marry him. Secondly, marriage does not hold the same significance that it used to, its easily attainable and equally easy to obtain a divorce (much more than it used to be anyway!). People nowadays marry for love and on impulse, which simply doesnt always work out because those emotions arent neccessarily permanent. People in the past, where the value of no sex before marriage was also commonly held, tended to marry for financial and reputational gain. That's just the way it is. This is no way means I am a ***** just because I believe in sex before marriage, I just don't believe marriage is what it used to be. Which is a shame. And the OP's boyfriend would have been a dick regardless of the "husband" title.

And I am going to have to disagree with you. Just because they have been together for 4 years doesn't mean she should know what a dick he was. If they were married then the trials and tribulations of getting married would have made the guy show through his real colours. Plus it would have been the first step to showing how committed he was to the relationship. If he couldn't handle getting married or even engaging to this women that he supposedly loved then there is NO WAY he was ready to be a father. Unplanned or otherwise. But yes. The boyfriend is a dick. But at least if they had gotten married throughout the process of the wedding (probably the bachelor party) the rest of the family would have seen this even if the OP was blind to it and somebody would have spoken up about it. Hence ending the relationship before they brought a life into this world

Jimboom, you are really stretching the imagination here. I think maybe your problem is that you believe in too many fairy tales where all ends happily if you follow the right steps. It doesn't work that way. FYI, I have been married for 7 years. I have been living with my husband for 8&1/2 years. We have known each other since 1992. Well. As in, his family came to our church every Sunday and I dated him since I was 16. We waited two years AFTER marriage to get pregnant. I thought I had his commitment, but he accused me a few years later of making him have kids against his will. When I talked to him about having a second child, he as always told me that whatever I wanted was fine. When he found out I was pregnant again, he got thoroughly trashed and totaled both our vehicles within 48 hours. It took me a long time to realize that (1) he had some serious issues from his early childhood that had never been dealt with properly, (2) I was a LOT more naive than I thought I was, (3) he had major drug problems he was hiding from me, (4) he was so afraid of conflict after watching his mother's violent, abusive behavior that he would tell me whatever I wanted to hear in order to avoid argument, then get angry with me later for making decisions based on his words rather than his thoughts, as if I could read his mind; and the list could go on and on. He didn't actually come out and say "I'm leaving," and he continued to support us financially to a point. But he was an absent member of the family for years. I think it was only his self-loathing and the fear of what our families would say that kept him around at all. Only in the past six months has he begun to address these issues; and I have also realized that my upbringing did not prepare me for marriage, but only for motherhood. Together we are trying to make a fresh start, before our kids are old enough to be permanently affected, and I have hope that we will be successful by God's grace. My point is, marriage has nothing to do with whether or not a relationship works out. There are so many things that have worked out for me to even allow me to continue working things out with him. If I didn't have a very large family (including my in-laws) who are both supportive of me and sympathetic towards him, I would not be here. And if the OP had gotten married four years ago, I do not for one second believe that her situation today would be any different. I don't understand why anyone would think so.

green hair extentions?................why?

My mum had a C-section after me and my father didn't understand why she just couldn't lay down in missionary and **** him. Well HE basically took it and she had to go to the emergency room and get re-stapled because the wound opened. Geniuses; The Stitches/staples/whatever they use for a specific woman to close the wound can burst with too much friction, body fluid, movement, pressure, etc. So anal and vaginal ******* are both out of the question. If She blew him, she'd have to be on her knees or stomach which is bad for the wound As well. I guess he could have just ****** her face but Guys tend to get very into that and I'm sure it would have been uncomfortable for her because she JUST POPPED OUT HIS ******* KID. But Hey! How about a handjob! As someone who has given the vile things before, I can honestly say that even when I'm in the best of health I tend to get bored or annoyed by the things because most men want more. So If I had just, Oh IDK, HAD A KID FOR THE LOSER I probably would be even MORE bothered and sickened by it because my stomach is basically in shreds and I'm playing with your two-inch tallywacker. Woman are NOT Objects. We are not THINGS. We are strong and amazing and deserve the right to bleed and heal without some man waving his dick in our faces talking about his "needs". Half of the men who demean a woman are the same lovely Muddies who cry whenever they get food poisoning or the Flu. We have to carry so much more so PLEASE stop making the OP out to be a bad girlfriend. So You inconsiderate Asses, I hope that clears things up just a bit.

Wow. Some speech. And I agree with every word of it. That guy is a bastard, I am sure that you can find someone better.

It's women like you that make men cheat! It's a woman's job ( or man's if you happen to be gay) to satifsy your man. If you can't satifsy your man then what good are you?

Uh Huh. Don't talk to me.

And your response sounds similar to the one the OP gave her man. See a pattern here? Man hating.

Oh, I'm sorry that I don't display weakness by worshiping men and ******* them despite my sickness or discomfort. Excuse me for having Self-respect. I LOVE Men but no Man is worth my body, mind and soul. Know why? Because most men Drain a woman (if she allows him to do so) and then when she's a used up rag he leaves her. Is that What You'd want for your daughter, or sister, or another woman in your life? I Love a RESPECTFUL MAN. Stop trying to initiate this "feminist" debate. I'm somewhat a feminist but I have *no* qualms with dropping to my knees and showing my man the Love he deserves IF I AM NOT SICK OR UNWELL OR RECOVERING FROM MAJOR SURGERY. You won't get to me Sweetheart. Sorry!

I 100% agree with you girl! Unfortunately you cant make an ignorant man understand what a woman goes through when she has a baby. Men can't and won't EVER understand,even if they cared to.He should at the very least respect her needs. If he wanted a hand job guess what?! HE'S GOT TWO HANDS! This was so wrong of him on so many levels that its just ridiculous anyone could make an excuse for this garbage of a man. Not only is having a baby one of the most physical things you could go through, Your also mentally and emotionally changed. I'm not against MEN but i think there are definitely a lot of ****** up ones out there.

A guy like that would probably knock up his daughter, sister, or niece, too; so it's not even worth arguing with him. He's a predator. End of story.

Zero obligation? Really? You actually believe a ceremony should be required to establish parental responsibility? What a turd. It takes two to make a baby, and she did the extra work of carrying it and giving birth to it. The father has every bit as much obligation as she does; he gets off easy from the very beginning. And somehow adoption is a better answer? Pathetic. Just pathetic. I can tell YOUR parents did a lousy job.

Dsimps, you do realize that C-section is a proper term for Cesarean section, right? No spelling error, there.