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"#42, your friend is an idiot for using an epi pen if he is not allergic. epi pen dosages are administered based on the need of the patient, and if you are not allergic then yes you can faint or even die from the adrenaline." He's in med school, we knew it was stupid, we had others around ready to call the ambulance, it was a dare and he did it hahaha... It didn't do too much, except raise his blood pressure a bunch. It was 1 or 2 months expired too so it was less "active"/strong.
EPPEc fail.
Everyone is being such assholes about this. They're saying YDI for "not knowing how to use an epi pen" First of all, I HIGHLY DOUBT any of them know how to use it. And secondly, coming from someone who also works as a counselor, thats a really stressful situation to be in and its not something you can really "practice." Im sorry this happened to you. I hope you're both okay.
Agreed #106. Plain as day on the pen. Also the OP should have used an EpiPen trainer device before (no needle, no adrenaline) so should know how to administer a dosage.
My dad shot himself in the thumb trying to inject an EpiPen upside-down, so you're not the only one. To those saying that it's not his life that's F'd: EpiPens can cause heart attacks, which is why anyone who uses them needs to go to the hospital. EpiPens in fingers can cause them to lose blood supply. He could have killed both of them, or at least have to live with killing someone else over his own stupidity. So yes, his life is F'd. PS: Some models have arrows to tell you which side to use.
#70 - In any first aid training class they tell people to remain calm in case of an emergency, and most classes cover the use of epi pens. Anyone who hasn't been trained (though, it's clear that the OP should've taken it upon themselves to get the proper training before working at a day camp) should most DEFINITELY takes a minute to read the instructions, because it's one minute with limited air, or ten while you wait for the ambulance to arrive because they used it wrong, and with epi pens, you only got one shot unless you have an extra, so there's no excuse for saying they shouldn't read the instructions, when it'd take about a minute (condensed version on the pen is in steps, it would only take seconds), so a minute maximum to figure out how to use it correctly. It's like saying it's okay for someone to use an automated electronic defibrillator without certification, and paying no heed to the instructions. It's dangerous. It's not advised. Epi pens have directions on them for a reason, and they shouldn't be ignored despite that it's an emergency. Really, it like saying, let the kid spend as long as possible with limited respiratory function, instead of let them spend one minute while someone figures out how to use the epi pen. It's common sense to read the directions first, and it may be a state of emergency, but you have to remain calm, and do what you can to help the person, not freak out, and ruin their best chance at surviving.
THIS is why in my health class, the RN told us to never put your thumb/hand over either end of the pen...just grab it around the middle and stab.
I'm kind of in the middle. On the one hand, at least you went for his epi pen and tried to administer it, which is commendable. On the other hand... even in a situation that you think is life or death, it never hurts to stop and read the instructions. If you had, you would've been able to actually inject it into him, which would have done a hell of a lot more good than choosing to act quickly the way you did. Maybe you might've been able to inject even if you hadn't read them, in which case, you would just be incredibly lucky. Oh, well. Lesson learned, I'm guessing.
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Not panicking is a good thing. Also, paying attention during the first aid training. And it's "epi pen", for the record.
Too bad you can't spell anything else....