It's a trap!
By raspution - 10/01/2018 19:38
By raspution - 10/01/2018 19:38
OP: Lots of questions. I get home from work at 1am so she was sleeping. I cook and clean my own mess made from it the mess is almost all hers since she doesn't clean up for herself. We do not have any kids but that is the problem. About a year and a half ago she had her 3rd miscarriage. She became extremely depressed tried to hurt herself and so on. She is doing better now but I am getting tired of her being like this. she goes to counseling 2x a month and some times I just feel like she's using me. All of last year we only had sex 3 times and i don't want to leave her if she's really depressed and want her to get better but then crap like this makes me think she's just using me and taking advantage of it. Also I worry a 4th try wont fix things and if she had another miscarriage it would be worse.
I'm curious where your wife was at the time you got the note...
get a new wife
She needs to be fired she not doing anything and except you to clean the house you can cook and she can clean
If she really isn't working, that's nuts. However, if she's "not working" becaause she's taking care of small children (which IS work) then you may deserve it... more details?
OP: Lots of questions. I get home from work at 1am so she was sleeping. I cook and clean my own mess made from it the mess is almost all hers since she doesn't clean up for herself. We do not have any kids but that is the problem. About a year and a half ago she had her 3rd miscarriage. She became extremely depressed tried to hurt herself and so on. She is doing better now but I am getting tired of her being like this. she goes to counseling 2x a month and some times I just feel like she's using me. All of last year we only had sex 3 times and i don't want to leave her if she's really depressed and want her to get better but then crap like this makes me think she's just using me and taking advantage of it. Also I worry a 4th try wont fix things and if she had another miscarriage it would be worse.
Hmm, depression, lethargy, lost libido and fertility issues... sounds like a hormone problem, perhaps low cortisol or low thyroid. Most drs don't test thoroughly and if they do they view the results too casually (I had a Dr who left me feeling half dead nearly a decade without telling me my thyroid was off or medicating me for that, because the test result was "only a bit over range" meanwhile on that test it's actually ideal to be in the lower half of the range, so I was actually really far off of ideal). My point is, most drs will be lazy and call something "good enough" when it isn't. But if you find a doctor who is thorough (they tend to call themselves functional or integrative practitioners- that's a philosophy not a specialty), I bet they can find some hormone issue, and medication for such issues is fairly low risk and effective. Good luck!
if there is no improvement after a year of counseling, you need to cut your losses.
I could tell you a very long story about someone I know but the punch line is. 1: Those were your babies too 2: Staying because she is depressed won't fix this 3: Trying for another baby won't fix this 4: Succeeding and having a healthy baby won't fix this. .... because that's not how depression works. Only she can fix that and it sounds like she isn't willing to make the effort.
There's at least 2-3 issues here. There's the physical issue of the miscarriage and all the physical and hormonal things that can go wrong after one. There's her depression after the miscarriage which sounds like she needs more than just taking to a therapist twice a month. And there's also y'alls relationship. If you want to save it I'd highly recommend talking to a couples therapist who specializes in either partners with depression or post miscarriage / medical issues. There's also support groups both for people who have lost pregnancies/ children and for people with depression. But clearly this isn't working for you and at this point it doesn't sound like it's getting better on its own.
Twice a month is not enough. I never had a miscarriage but have been a cutter since I was 13, and I'm 31 now, and know from experience that 2 times a month for depression that extreme isn't enough. For the longest time, I was going 8 times a month, twice a week every week. Depression is a monster of a disorder but saying such things to be suggestive of one thing to be another is messed. As for trying a 4th time may have the same results. She needs out patient therapy. Where she is forced to leave the house for therapy. Your local hospital can direct you to the resources needed for that. My last piece of advice: take care of yourself too. Do not let her depression drag you down. Good luck OP.
Do. Not. Have. Kids.
I wish I could give you a thousand upvotes.
I would recommend adding a 3rd counselling meeting, one for the two of you. She had trauma, but you're part and parcel of the (what should be) cohesive unit. I really think both of you would benefit from couples counselling to get the communication and feelings out there. She might be blaming herself and feeling alone because of what happened, and in turn pushing you away and feel like you're drifting. Working that much is also not a very good thing, especially re: communication. A text or whatsapp doesn't cut it. Good luck bro
Well that sucks like a vacuum...
Throw the whole wife away!
Whatever happened to "for better or for worse"?
Go get her boyfriend from out of state to do the cleaning!
You're probably right
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Well, that pretty clearly seems like intentional manipulation on her part. Look at that expert use of vague, open ended language on the TEXT followed by that turn around to using a NOTE instead of face to face or the previously used text communication, reducing the chance of arguing. A note that very clearly indicates she knew you wouldn't have cleaning on your mind, or else it wouldn't have needed to explain what you "offered". Unless she has a medical condition or otherwise justifiable reason to not do house work, it's time to let her know that it's only fair that since you work 60 hours a week and she works 0, she do the majority of the house work. It's CERTAINLY not okay to manipulate you like that, either.
If you cleaned the house, YDI.