Please, people, don't encourage OP "not to give up". Life is not a romantic comedy. If you have been rejected once, chances are that the other person does not feel the same way about you and will not change their mind. It doesn't mean she wouldn't love OP as a friend. I'd encourage OP to just direct his interest elsewhere and try to maintain the friendship. Although it would be nice to have a follow-up, OP: have you always had a crush on her? Or did you develop it just recently?

The problem with this is that if you start dating another girl you force your friend out because the new girl becomes your priority. Sounds like you are in a bit of a rut, hopefully your friend will understand and maybe even help you find someone.

Not true at all. I didn't give up on a girl for 7 years and she finally agreed to date me. I was going well for almost half a year till we talked about marriage and her parents talked her out of being with me.

Could that possibly have been because you sound like a stalker?

That's terrible advice.

Yea, she didn't want to break up. Her parents made her. Sounds believable..

#21 i couldn't agree more, after rejection, if he keeps trying he'll start complaining about being in a friendzone and no lady friend will want to put up with that, after he becomes bitter(if so) later on.

"…is that a code for sex?"

Here, everything is code for sex.

Long Dick Style!

OP should have told her dating him would be more like adopting a pussy cat. SERIOUSLY 9 YEARS YDI TOTALLY

I'm not a fan of using the "friend zone" in such a negative way. Why is being friends with someone so wrong? We can't force feelings and each person only has room for one partner (usually), so it's a fairly prestigious spot to take. I would much rather have someone want to stay friends with me than to just dismiss the whole friendship because of a crush.

Obviously you have never had a crush on someone and have them tell you "sorry, I just don't think of you that way"

I agree with what you're saying my guy friends are seriously do or die forever friends and worth more than gold. But sometimes the friend zone is more than a crush. One can really love the other but it isn't mutual. You can't deny that's not miserable and painful when you want/ache for so much more. You can tell your brain being friends is great all you want, but your heart is still devastated by those words. In the moment a crush feels real too and hurts just as bad. It's real easy for the crushed on person to think being friends should be a great thing they aren't in pain longing for the other. That's why the friend zoned can suck. The friend zone as a place is fine, being friend zoned the verb sucks.

19, so you're telling me that just because you like someone that they MUST return your feelings? Grow up. It doesn't work that way. Sure, it might suck at first. But in the end, do you want to keep your friend? Or do you want to throw a tantrum and throw away the friendship? Think about it.

I think it's unfair to call it a temper tantrum. You're dismissing feelings that are pretty real to the "friend-zonee" and saying that they need to grow up and suck it up. Why does the friend-zonee owe the friend-zoner their attention when they don't feel the same way? It's very childish in itself to reject someone and call THEM childish when they don't act according to your own bizarre expectations.

I see your point 22 and indeed agree with you. The fact that you're in love with someone shouldn't mean that they're obligated to love you back. However, it doesn't stop the friend zone from being a harsh and terrible place for the friend who wants more from the relationship. Believe me, I've a friend who was in love with his best friend. Naturally. she called to tell him of her newest crush or how successfully a date went. And he was obligated to be happy for her because what else are friends for? Watching the very fake happiness was just brutal.

You do know you're don't owe him your attention, right? You talk about it as if you owe him that no matter what because you happened to be friends. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be friends, I'm just saying that maybe taking some time and distance from the friend zone seems like a viable option to people. That's not a bad thing.

28, you've concluded points that I didn't even talk about. I didn't say the friend-zonee owed anything to the friend-zoner. But in the end, who is the one that usually tarnishes the friendship because of this kind of situation? The one who has feelings, aka the friend-zonee. And also, if you think I have bizarre expectations, I don't. I have realistic ones. Not everyone will like me. So I have to deal with it. I can't be pissed off and bash this "friend zone" term just because I didn't get my way. That is why I said "grow up." If the other guy doesn't like me, it's shitty but I gotta just take it and move on.

Wow you guys read way too much into this. If you like someone and they want a relationship great, if they don't, they don't. It shouldn't be that big if a deal. Don't obsess over it. There are plenty of women who are cool to hang out with, but I don't want a relationship with them. Thats the way it is. It's not a bad thing. Just dont obsess. Realize the reality of the world. Everyone is not going to behave the way you want then too. Accept them for who they are. If they are fun to hang with then continue to hang out with them. If they are not, then be glad you arent in a relationship, you dodged a bulllet.

The bizarre expectations I meant were you regarding the friend-zonee. It's unfair to expect that they're fine and dandy with their situation and call them out when they want distance as if it were a bad thing. If they don't want to continue being friends, it's their choice.

She didn't friend-zone him. Hes been livinf there for 7 years. She put in the disowned puppy zone.

Who woulda thought that such a stupid friend zone comment would start such a big debate

That's a new one, you gotta give her that.

the way I see it... if she friendzones you, just smile and forget them! I mean you should stay friends (if you want to) but I see it as an opportunity to get your life together and eventually find someone 10x hotter and worth your time! :D

It hurts to be friend zoned, but no one was saying that anyone was obligated to reciprocate any feelings. They're just saying that is unfortunate their crush didn't feel the same. The same way people can't expect their crush to reciprocate, it's unreasonable to expect someone to be perfectly happy after being shot down. It doesn't exactly feel good. They should be mature enough to compartmentalize their feelings so they don't damage the friendship though.

It sounds to me like the girl considers OP high maintenance.

I read it as her saying OP is soft and in need of mommying. Not her idea of a man. Way too many guys become best friends like that and they are seen as neutered to the women. They feel a man would just make a move and go after what he wants.

Yes! Get a good puppy whining recording and stand outside her window with a huge boom box with it playing full blast at like 1 in the morning, always works in the movies!

Nope, she's the only girl for OP. Her rejection means he would be forever alone.

That's not how it works 34. Just because OP has a crush on her doesn't mean he loves her. Things change surprisingly a lot when you go from friends to boyfriend/girlfriend.

I think....I think #34 was being sarcastic.

How soon? 9 more years? OP should fine romantic interest elsewhere. If they can remain friends despite his feelings good, otherwise, OP should also find a new best friend. Those relationships where one person is in love with the other, aren't healthy and are too difficult to handle.

She shouldn't be pressured to get feelings for op either. It sucks but it's best to move on.

Typically its not one person in love with another. Its one person obsessed with who they thinks the other one would be in a relationship.