unpaid orientation? I work for Vector and yes training is not paid. The reason: the training seminar is actually a college accredited course. Thats why it is unpaid. And crasher41, have you tried Vector? What do you have against this highly respected company? Stop being a whiner and go do something with your life.

Answer: I have never personally worked for Vector, I am not that stupid. I have however done in depth case studies on the company while doing my MBA. Such academic studies revealed many of the deceptive and coercive tactics Vector uses to steal money from students and vulnerable citizens. Your statement that Vector is "reputable" is laughable. This is a company well-documented in using deceptive hiring practices and intimidating the vulnerable by promising high wages and spamming friends and family with high-pressure sales techniques. Most importantly, I am FULLY AWARE of the money Vector spend distorting the truth via online message boards, public relations campaigns and fake example advertisements. So Why do I help? Because it pisses me off and I want to help people, I gain nothing from Vectors tarnished reputation. I only seek the truth, and I don't appreciate Vector trying to distort it with countless fake posts. Sadly, some people may be fooled by this and I will do whatever I can to mitigate such deception. On a more personal note, I frequently ran across vector reps on campus and have watched first hand how deceptive and tricky they can be. Its funny how fast they back-track when you start to interrogate them about their business. Finally, you know nothing about me, so don't tell me to "get a life" haha. I could be the Prince of ******* Egypt for all you know. THINK, then SPEAK.

Crasher, I wonder if during the course of your case studies did you ever reach out to some of the college professors on the Advisory Board? Now I am sure you did all your homework and researched both sides of the story before you formed your opinion so this probably just slipped your mind. But if you are truly so desperate to find and spread the truth why do you not contact some of these professors and find out why they would allow Vector to be used as a college course or otherwise affiliate their own names and reputations with what you refer to as a scam. http://www.campusrelations.com/academia/advisoryboard.html Reach out to them if you are honestly looking to help people or just disregard me as some corporate shill paid to defend the company in an ad hominem attack. Either way, those professors still endorse the company.

HAHAHA... LOOK AT YOUR "EXAMPLE". Does anyone actually fall for this garbage!!?? It's a linked directly to Vector's site, SO BIASED!! It's like those informercials where they find some SMUCK doctor to either accidentally say the wrong thing or slip them a few bucks to give an endorsement. Do you go out and buy every product a celebrity endorses!? VECTOR IS A SCAM AND THEY USE DECEPTIVE TACTICS SUCH AS THAT LINK TO TRICK VULNERABLE STUDENTS OUT OF THEIR MONEY!!

I am not asking you to believe what is on the site. I said to contact them directly and ask their opinion. Your outright dismissal of it does a disservice to your attempts to discredit the company. Once you actually do some homework and talk to them then come back here. Till then, you can put up a front saying you are trying to help people but you clearly just showed you don't. If you did care you'd ask those professors. Again, I trust their established PhD's more than your supposed MBA.

Vaca, why do you find it so hard to believe that there could be successful sales representatives who read FML and want to defend the company they are affiliated with? I mean c'mon, are you seriously so skeptical and jaded that you cannot possibly conceive the notion that people would defend something in which they have invested themselves? As for a company that requires someone to pay to start up, have you ever heard of franchises? If someone wanted to own a professional sports team they would have the start up cost or as you say, "pay them money," with them being the league, to purchase the franchise or team. Every independently owned and operated McDonalds, 7/11, Dominoes, or any other franchise requires the owner to purchase the rights to open up a location. Am I comparing selling Cutco is the same thing as owning the Yankees? Of course not. But for you to claim that any job that requires some investment upfront is a scam is just ignorant of capitalism. Every entrepreneur who starts his/her own business be it a restaurant, novelty store, or lemonade stand will have to invest something up front. I challenge you to find another company that will refund the initial investment at any time as well as well as have such a relatively small start up cost of $145. Think about it.

HAHAHA this is as illogical as it is poorly written. I can tell you work for Vector just based on how flawed your reasoning is. Not only did it sound like a tacky infomercial you provided no examples that address the underlying issues. By your logic a company should force its employees to buy shares before working to them in the spirit on entrepreneurship. Hell, instead on money lets just pay our employees with stock too. Actually there was a company that did that, it was called ENRON. Biggest scam in US history. VECTOR = SCAM VECTOR IS A SCAAAM.

Crasher i think you need to relax a bit. Your trolling around is interesting but ultimately wrong. And I DID provide examples to address the underlying issue of having to pay something to work there by citing franchises. I am more than willing to have a discussion on your issues with the company but that will require you to at least be open to the possibility you are wrong on some points. Feel free to vent your grievances other than having to pay to work. I think It is pretty clear this is not the only place. And you are grossly misrepresenting my point by suggesting that I said employers should force employees to buy stock. Employees trade time for money. That is how per hour works. Vector is not like other jobs, for better or for worse. Sales Reps are NOT employees but rather independent contractors. For those of you who are unsure of the difference, sales reps are essentially their own business. And like I had mentioned earlier, businesses often require some capital to start up. Are there any other problems you have with the company or are you just going to attack me and not my points? Ad hominem does not work too well though.

Refer to post #329. VECTOR = SCAM

you're a ****** retard. shut the **** up. i'm better educated than you'll ever be and i worked for vector. people like you with your ridiculous conspiracy theories and scam cries have made america the paranoid nation it is today. get your head out of your ass.

Your post was extremely offensive and I will be reporting you. I'm cool with being call ignorant and ******* retarded, but American!?.....that's just low.