I would prefer to have my own kids over someone else's any day.

I disagree! I would much rather NOT go through childbirth, thank you... And also, that child needs love, right here, right now, whereas your child... does not even exist, hasn't even BEGUN to exist. You want to make another child; put another being on this already heavily human-impregnated Earth, just because you aren't up to the task of taking care of another human being because they aren't related to you? Quite inhumane if you ask me! Where's the love for thy fellow man?

1. How can you disagree that I would rather have my own kids over someone else's? OMG R U IN MAI HEAD?! 2. Where did I ever say that I don't have kids? 3. I never said I wasn't "up to the task"; I stated my preference. If it came to be that I couldn't have kids of my own, I would consider adoption. 4. If you want to talk about being inhumane for creating a child, how about scolding everyone here who's pregnant or planning on having (er, making?) kids ever? There are lots of animals who don't have homes or families either, why aren't you scolding all the pet owners you know who've let their animals procreate? And then, you scold me for wanting my own kids, and then ask where my love for "thy fellow man" is. Hmm. Where's your respect for others' wishes and dreams?

**** you, you would love those other person's kids just as much as you would love the one that popped out of you... ur so selfish for wanting an almost clone of yourself when there are so many other kids in the world that need a home!

You guys make me laugh, talking about the "strain of the world". There's lots of things wrong with the world. One or two more people aren't going to make that much of a difference. (Oh, especially if I teach them to recycle!) And... who ever said this was about wanting a clone? Most any mother will tell you that pregnancy and childbirth are a unique experience, nothing else like it in the world. If you don't want that experience in your lifetime, fine. But I do. It just so happens that #16 could be me. I do have PCOS, diagnosed last year. The doctor said I may or may not be able have kids, and I won't know until I try. All I've EVER wanted in my life is to be a mommy. Like I said above, which apparently you didn't read -- if I can't have kids, I would consider adoption.

OK, I really don't see why people have to argue about this issue. Some people want their own, blood-related children, some want to adopt. Some people like apples, some like oranges. Seriously, it's a preference. Personally, I want the experience of sharing my body with my child for nine months, because I grew up with my mom telling me how amazing it was to be able to carry me. (My mom also had a reproductive disorder, not sure if it was PCOS though, and was told she'd never be able to have children, then had me.) But in the event that I could not have children naturally, I would consider adoption. And it's not like someone can snap their fingers and adopt a child either. I know two couples who are family friends. Both couples are made up of wonderful, caring people with stable homes & incomes, and both have tried to adopt and been turned down. Long story short, no one is a horrible human being just because they want to have a child of their own.

I find it odd how you all took my over-the-top dramatic post so seriously.

#123 "Most any mother will tell you that pregnancy and childbirth are a unique experience, nothing else like it in the world." And I'll tell you that being awake to have some of your bone marrow taken out is a unique expierience, nothing like it in the world. It's also soul-crushingly uncomfortable in a way different then pain and I wish it could be reserved for my worst enemies . Find me some women who enjoy going through child birth WHILE IT'S HAPPENING and I'll take your illogical belief that any expierience that is unique is good somewhat seriously. Unless you're masochistic or a thrill seeker in which case........Can't really argue with that :| .

I think you missed the point there, buddy. I never said "any experience which is unique is good", and I never said I would LOVE the pain and totally enjoy every minute of it. I said it would be unique. And that, along with the end result, are what would make it worth it. In the same way, the uncomfortableness you feel when having bone marrow taken out is unique as well, and while that may not be WHY you're having bone marrow extracted, then end result makes it worth it... no? Anyway... #169 has it.

You implied that the expierience of the actual pregnancy and the child birth would make it worth it in itself "If you don't want that experience in your lifetime, fine. But I do." . "I said it would be unique. And that, along with the end result, are what would make it worth it." So being unique automatically makes something better? Yes, the end result made it worth it, because it lasted 20 seconds and it was the only reason(my oncologist and) I didn't think I was gonna die. Do you honestly think that's way too extreme to compare to 9 months of pregnancy (morning sickness, cramps, other shit) followed by pushing a 7 pound object out of your vag just so your kid is biologically yours? Maybe it's because I personally see absolutely no value in that kind of thing, but I can't imagine it's worth it.

...Explain to me why this is such a hard concept for you to grasp. If everyone shared your view ("Maybe it's because I personally see absolutely no value in that kind of thing, but I can't imagine it's worth it") YOU wouldn't even be here. The human race would not continue to exist. Your argument is flawed. P.S. Quit spelling experience incorrectly.

It's a hard concept for me to grasp because , in my opinion, going through so much for something so unimportant sounds like absolute insanity. I am able to grasp how people disagree with other beliefs of mine that I consider more important. Abortion, Religion, Safety versus Freedom, but this one...... I don't know . I honestly don't care if the human race continues to exist after this generation dies out. I only care about the already living. Besides, if everyone did share my views there would be a shortage of babies up for adoption, and you'd have to get pregnant if you want a baby. I grasp the concept of going through 9 months of hell to have a kid who you raise and crap like that.

"It's a hard concept for me to grasp because, in my opinion, going through so much for something so unimportant sounds like absolute insanity." "I grasp the concept of going through 9 months of hell to have a kid who you raise and crap like that." These two sentences contradict each other. Did you notice that? I just think you have a bad case of word diarrhea and are just saying things to start arguments. Besides, If everyone shared your "views", no one would want a baby, dumbass. So... people are unimportant. Perhaps you really shouldn't have had that bone marrow extraction after all.

Dumb, double post.

No, they don't, you mis-read terribly. Seriously, you gave me the impression you were smarter then that. The unimportant part was the kid being related to you. The kid that you get to raise isn't. If the 9 months of hell was the only way to have (and by have I mean be the legal guardians of and raise) kid I'd understand people going through it. ....True, although I never remember saying I don't want kids in this FML. I meant if they shared my one view that it's ridiculous to want to go through 9 months of hell just so the kid they get is biologically related. Not the one that having kids must really suck. If you want to word it like that, go ahead. BUt I'm pretty sure you know that's a very dickish way to put it since "people are unimportant" Gives you the impression I don't care what happens to anyone, which is untrue. I just don't care about the species itself.......hmmm, I don't know how to word that in a way that's easy to understand....... Oh well, it's only relevent to discussions where all of mankind will theoretically be wiped out. Death wishes ? So immature .

Perhaps you should have specified that, then. And do you not realize that it's a difficult process to adopt a child? It can take years, IF you're even approved for it. It's expensive (often more expensive than pregnancy), and can be emotionally trying. I'd say that's comparable to going through "9 months of hell" (which, by the way, really shouldn't be hell unless you have complications) to have a child, regardless of whether or not you care if he or she is biologically yours. And, as #169 stated, some people would prefer to have their kids "the natural way", others want to adopt. I'm not a terrible person for not preferring to adopt right off the bat; plenty of people in the world feel the same way. I'd say you're in the minority for thinking it's silly to want to get pregnant in order to have kids.

Eh well if it's bot treated it can cause uterine cancer. but generally it's not life threatening

The mother was, herself, sticking her nose in business that wasn't hers because the 12 year old was not her child. (:

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