I don't know OP and already he has all my respect

Last time I checked a film degree counts as education. Definitely not FHL.

Not all degrees are created equal.

They all take hard work and effort.

There are no engineers, classicists, geochemists, or physiologists in schools that give out film degrees. Try again, sir!

If an engineer or geochemist took a film degree, I'm pretty sure they're on the wrong track.

My school offered a film degree. And engineering and all that. It was a pretty big university, so there were separate colleges. Film, geology, and chemistry were under College of Arts and Sciences. Engineering was in the School of Engineering. I'm not sure where classics would have fit in. Maybe also the College of Arts and Sciences.

#43. I have it on very good authority that degrees, especially a film degree, does require hard work and effort. It's entirely false that university degrees, such as this on, are given with extremely high grade offers so that to get on to a course requires effort. And so to say that universities accommodate for "people who have decided they just don't want to put out much effort" isn't true as this is definitely not the case for me. Your second point is pretty much useless, so I'm going to humour you. The point that should be made that universities offer courses for different people. After all, I'm not going to take a degree in physics, even though I'm able to, when I can take a degree in something I am passionate and interested in. At the end of the day, when I may be working on a film set- have fun recording data in a lab, because we all know how fulfilling that it. 57% rise in humidity, **** YEAH.

Hm. I have degrees in Classics and English Lit, and they took me a long time to earn. When you're in five 400-level courses each semester and writing nothing but 20 page paper after 20 page paper, you ******* earn your degree. Additionally, in order to have any relevance in the field of Classics, you need to learn fluently at least one modern language, preferably French or German - and no way is German easy. I do agree that science courses are usually four credits instead of the three typical of humanities classes, but that's because there's a lab component. Sitting in a lab for three hours and waiting for something to melt or for the gas chromatograph to spew out their results isn't terribly taxing, though biology labs are considerably more involved. I was pre-med, so I feel for hard-science students. The bottom line is that degrees are difficult to earn, depending on much effort you're willing to expend and how well you wish to do. I know science students who are clueless and graduated with C-averages, as well as humanities majors who earned honors and were published, and the science people earn more by virtue of their degree. Not fair, but such is life.

62, maybe that is fulfilling to some people. You know, I picked a pretty shitty major at the moment, but I'm loving my classes so much that I just don't care. I decided to take a Animal Science major, going for vet. Yeah, I'll be just writing down a bunch of data and prescriptions and dealing with a bunch of stupid people, but for some reason I don't feel like that matters. However I know how you feel when you found the "humanities degrees are arbitrary" mentality insulting. I am an artist (CARTOONING YAY) and I love to write. While I'm not interested in a major in it, I don't think it's so dumb, and it is hard work (and they say cartooning's easy as pie, HAH) I mean, just taking a look at the Internet will show you how hard just writing is lmao

Actually he probably just has a high school diploma(and OCS) his self. So that makes her more educated.

Film is like every other major with low standards (like Psychology or Political Science, at least at my school). Since less is expected of them, they don't put in the effort other students do. (And I am being kind in ignoring the fact that I have to take multiple classes that meet 6 to 8 hours a week while all their classes are only 3 hours a week.) And by the way, Film majors have no right at all to whine about lab work being unfulfilling; have fun making "art" (How much modern TV would you consider entertaining, let alone artistic?) while Biology majors are developing cures for diseases and Chemistry majors are developing cheaper water-purification processes to help developing nations. You can make "art" if you want, but you can't claim that lab work is unfulfilling or useless, because that purification process will probably touch more people's lives than your assistant-directing (getting coffee for the actual director) on Double Shot of Love: Third Time's A Charm.

OCS requires a Bachelor's degree too.

What the ****? Psychology has low standards? Your post is automatically nullified. Psychology is damned rough, even when you aren't majoring in it. Many people FAIL their psychology classes, and many medical fields require at least one class in basic college psychology. It's fairly important. A friend of mine is majoring in it, and he has a full classload, and thensome. You also forget there are several subfields in psychology, which includes the actions of (but is not limited to) treating patients, LIKE DOCTORS, and finding causes of and cures and treatments for mental diseases, LIKE BIOLOGICAL SCIENTISTS.... And really man, don't knock on what someone likes to do and call them failures and lazy for it. That's just damned ignorant. Especially since, yeah, it IS damned hard. There's a lot more to filming than what you're thinking of. They have to know something about managing, managing a budget, appeasing others, writing, what the audience wants... I can see basic economics, leadership, public speaking, and composition classes right there. There's a lot more than that, but yeah. And of course, as you pointed out, it is a pretty shitty start (that getting coffee example you used) and it's difficult to actually get your name out there and your show or movie getting any recognition or consideration at all. Just because someone gets the graduate sooner than you do doesn't mean they're of lower intelligence than you or don't work as hard.

I am under the assumption that you've never served and so you know very little about the Marine Corps and the military. There are many enlisted to officer programs Two examples: Anapolis yes the one in the freaking movie where midshipman can become marine or naval officers. This is not a program for dumb people, many marines graduate from this school. The most common program enlisted Marines use to transition from enlisted to officer is the Marine Corps Enlisted Commissioning Education Program. The program offers qualified Marines the chance to go to a four-year college full-time, while maintaining active duty status and pay. To be eligible for MECEP, a Marine must be between the ages of 20 and 26. They must score at least 1,000 on the Scholastic Assessment Test, 40 on the American College Test or a 74 on the Armed Forces Qualification Test There are also the benefits of being in the armed service such as the post 9/11 GI bill which will pay for your college, housing, tuition, food, books for a four year degree up to 15 years after you leave the service. While on active duty tuition is FREE, your housing, food, health and dental and other things are paid for. The Marine Corps give bonuses to most MOS's (jobs) sometimes upwards of $95,000 for 4 years plus all the regular pay 30 days paid leave per year. There are also thousands of programs for getting service members jobs on the outside. So really a film degree versus all that and she doesn't even have her own place a good job or job security? Semper Fortis Semper Fidelis Doc O

Thank you doc for thoroughly explaining it. I was too lazy to grab up my brochures, and most of them are Army anyway...

Yeah that she's not using. She works at the f-ing mall. She's really making use of that education....

That was supposed to be directed at #20