By Litterbox - 20/04/2009 02:09 - United States
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Wow O_o I can't believe how much of a response this thing is getting(first post ever...) But for clarification:(Skip if you want...Blah) a) Since my mother was willing to beat me with a metal end of a broom for claiming Hitler and the events of the holocaust were wrong and has a machete at the ready underneath her bed, the threat was/is to be taken seriously, wouldn't you think... (Is she still hilarious?) b) Kill me, sure, but THE KID??? c)I would've loved for my mother to have been concerned/open enough with me to have an actual conversation about sex... Blegh -_-
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I know this is kinda unrelated to the FML, but I think abortion is only acceptable (not OKAY, but acceptable) in the case that the mother and/or the child's life is endangered. About the 9 year old getting raped thing, she is obviously not going to be physically ready to have a baby, and she could die during the process, therefore it is acceptable for her to have an abortion, although it may prevent her from having children in the future (abortions are very risky that way). But if a girl who most likely IS physically ready (say 15, 16 years old) gets raped, she should have the baby, because it is not the baby's fault in any way that she was raped; it shouldn't have to suffer for some disgusting criminal's actions. Babies do feel pain during abortions, so don't try to say they aren't suffering. Alright, I'm done here.
I... I think I love your mother.
#21/Apsaras, they DID pretend to know something before they posted. What you should have said was "at least think before you post!"... but that wouldn't work either, because few people think before they post. In any case, OP, your mother is pure win, but I can understand how that would be a very "omg...backing away slowly" moment. Creepily epic. It'd be even more hilarious if you were pregnant, though. Just saying. As far as abortion- case by case. If it's just "I decided I want to kill it without getting in trouble", then um... yeah. But in most cases it can be easily justified if you place yourselves in their shoes (and, more importantly, their mind frame). The majority of you can go chew out people who waste sperm and whatnot, kthxbai. And 198/pewpz... it's people like you that annoy me in these cases. Do you really think that the mother wouldn't be disgusted, horrified and maybe even in danger because of these emotions throughout the pregnancy? For one thing, she wouldn't be able to live with herself, most likely, and it highly depends on her emotional well-being. For another, on your terms, emotional stress (especially of that sort) can actually put a person in danger (even when they aren't pregnant), which would put the baby in danger as well. If she decides to have it, good for her and I would wish her health and strength through the process, but if she decides to have an abortion, you have no right to tell her she was wrong. If you were to do so in my presence I would slam your face into the nearest wall so fast you wouldn't even realize it until your teeth fell out. HER choice, HER reasons, HER peace of mind/lack thereof. There is no "what if" good enough for telling her that one of the biggest (and most traumatic) decisions of her life was wrong. Thank you for wasting my time and getting me to actually respond to your bullshit, goodbye. Edit: To the poster above me, I whole-heartedly agree. Love your mum.
I notice you said it can be justified if you put yourself in their shoes, and mind frame, What about the child's mind frame and the child's shoes? Here is a perfectly innocent being and you want to destroy that for selfish purposes? and you say we have no right to tell a person they are wrong for having an abortion? what about the child's rights? When will we start thinking about that? You said "HER choice, HER reasons, HER peace of mind/lack thereof" What about the child's reasons for not wanting to die? what about the child's choice? what about the child's peace of mind, knowing he/she wont be murdered by their own MOTHER. If it's perfectly morally okay to have an abortion, then i'm coming to your house and i'm ripping your arms and legs off the way they do it to a fetus, so you can see how they feel when their lives are being taken away. It's not a harmless procedure, it is painful. They feel everything! So if it's okay with you then, i'm coming over to rip your arms and legs off, Then your head. Or would you prefer the poison method some doctors prefer to use? How it burns your flesh right off and eats away at your insides until you die? You're CHOICE! Let me know. I'll be waiting. Let me know how easy it is to make that choice. Or perhaps I should let your mother make the decision? since that's how it goes? I'll ask her how i should "abort" you. Kthnx.
Guys, I know what you're saying about how teen mothers should be respected, but: A) They're generally asking their parents to support another person. Or the government. It's unlikely that they'll get a full-time job and pay for daycare when they're still in school, and be able to afford decent housing, clothing, and food for the kid and themselves. How is it fair that other people support their poor decision-making and the consequences of that decision? How are they going to afford the medical bills, or take care of a Special Needs kid? What if the baby is born with a harelip and needs surgery? Or needs to stay in the NICU for a bit. B) They generally have trouble pursuing their own dreams. How many teen mothers are doctors and lawyers? Backpacked through Europe? Speak 5 languages? Come on. I get the number of kids who are saying how their mothers were unwed teenage mums and how they turned out fine, but did your mother do what she wanted? Seriously? Without violating A? Plus, the people who say abortion is only okay if it endangers the mother's life... there are other factors. A 10yo and an 11yo can often bring to term, especially given the level of care offered in first world countries. It's going to destroy their bodies, sure, but technically they'll recover. They'll have the post-pregnancy damage, except accelerated, but still. Isn't the psychological and emotional damage to a girl of any age forced to bring a child into the world before she's ready important? Besides that, there are so many children in the world already, and there just isn't enough resources to go around. Still, adoption is fine. If you're worried about genetics the baby can get tested by the adoptive parents so no surprises like Huntington's will crop up. It's some $399 USD, an adoptive family can easily pay that. If I'm studying as a med student and I get knocked up because, hey, condoms and BCP failed, despite being married I am not dropping out of school to give birth, and I can't afford the time and effort - or money - to raise a child right now. I don't have the time to be pregnant or give it up for adoption. I will also lose my scholarships - which, in effect, will destroy my education and career. I need to know there's a Plan B, or I'll never be able to have sex with my husband. :( There must be a choice for whom it's necessary. Totally amused by the quote.
******* LOL. EPIC.
always thought the same way as her, now i know how to phrase myself
Hmm, in a way, I guess that might be a more effective method of birth control than anything else. xP
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anyone else think there should be a "parents" section on here?
Oh, wow. That sounds like my mother.