I agree with you entirely about shaving and waxing, its the product of the **** industry but if people want to shave then so be it, for me it is more comfy to have it trimmed and it saves a lot of embarrasment when swimming ( i was caught out once when i was rather young and thought shaving down there was a little perverse) You don't see women freaking out when they have to have their noses stuffed in sweaty pubes of their guys do you?? I can tell you right now if any guy said to me that i had to be completely bald before they would touch me there they wouldn't touch the ground on the way out the door. I don't know how old you are or the rules where you live regarding this but I will say that if you have been asked to go to the gyno please go regardless of being sexually active. Its only once every three years for a smear and in your case you know its going to come back all clear (unless your hellishly unlucky) so it would probablu be worth it :).

Well, see, everytime I go to the doctor (I'm a 20 year old virgin), and they ask me if I'm sexually active, and I respond no, they refuse to send me to an OB/GYN. Neither me nor my mother know why they won't. It doesn't mean that just because I haven't been to an OB/GYN, I'm not ignorant to any issues with my body. I just have not been sent. I don't know if they'll make me when I go for a physical this year.

You should make an appointment with the OB/GYN directly. Your doctors are ignorant.

i totally agree it all comes down to what you prefer

I don't go there either. it's not bad by not going. it's not stupid either. it's called washing and taking care of yourself, you don't have to go to a gyn if you take care of yourself properly.

Uhm..not really..there's a reason why you're supposed to go at least once a year. Jeeze..some of you girls really are..THAT stupid, Aren't you? Do you realize that some STD's can take up to SIX...count 'em ladies.. 1-2-3-4-5-6 Y-E-A-R-S to show up. And sometimes the bacteria in the ****** camouflages certain infections until it reaches your cervix and guess what LITTLE GIRLS...you really can't get that diagnosed without the gyno taking a swab OFF of the cervix. Stupid little girls....I shake my head at your uneducated selves. You make me sad, what makes me sadder is that my daughter is going to grow up and be in school around such an IGNORANT generation.

um.. how would you get STDs if your not sexually active and have never touched "that place" before? it makes no sense. and also, if you have learned to take care of yourself and wash thoroughly each day (for me it's multiple times, I'm a germ freak). if you are in tune with your body then you would know when you have an infection. There would be symptoms. Besides, how would you get an infection if A) you wash multiple times a day B) you know your body well and C) you are not sexually active. I am not stupid as you say so, nor am I little. I happen to be 22 and have NEVER had an infection of the sort. I am sorry to say, but you are wrong on this. not everyone has to go to a gyn. Sure it's recommended, but one doesn't have to. especially if you're not sexually active and wash thoroughly multiple times a day.

Do you know what HPV is? It's labeled at a virus you *can* get through being sexually active...but you can be a CARRIER without ever having had A-N-Y sexual contact in your life. Wanna know where you need to get swabbed for the Doc to test for it? GUESS WHERE!!!!! The Cervix. And you could be a CARRIER of other Diseases without ever having had sexual contact beforehand. You don't get S-Y-M-P-T-O-M-S if you are only a CARRIER. Does this compute in your ignorant little brain? As for some infections/diseases. They don't always have the harsh symptoms described on many sites online or any research you do into it. Certain STI's just cause flu like symptoms the first time around and you could go years with out an outbreak in between. Sorry I don't mean to be a downer...but I'm really careful about my body and I know I'm very well in tune with my body...but I still go to the gyno even though I've been with the same person for several years and don't suspect any sort of cheating has gone on, on his part.

I still see flaws in your argument. It's true that I COULD be a carrier, but my mother has gone to the gyn before when she was pregnant with me. All was fine down there. I highly doubt that I could be a carrier of HPV, seriously it would have had to happen when I was in the womb of my mother. For me to be a carrier and not have had sex, it would have had to be transferred through genes. Since my mother was tested before and after the pregnancy and no HPV or any other viruses/infections were detected, I am pretty sure that I am not a carrier for any diseases. Plus, HPV is an STD and since I have had no sexual contact whatsoever, that narrows down that possibility. But since HPV also causes cervical cancer and warts, there is still a possibility. HOWEVER, I have been tested for cancers before and cervical cancer does not run in my family genes. AND I have had no warts, since HPV causes all types of warts. Also, bacterial vaginosis is extremely rare for people who have not had sex. Yeast infection is caused by antibiotics (never had them in my life), diabetes (I don't have it an it doesn't run in my family), hormonal changes (very careful about this also), birth control (I'm not on it), steroids (haha, not a possibility), tight underwear (I'm careful about that), HIV/AIDS (not possible), douches (have no need for that), and scratches in the ****** (careful about that). Trichomoniasis is an STD an I know I don't have that. I am not ignorant as you say I am. I believe I am more knowledgable than you are.

There are over 120 strains of HPV. Only 30 of those are transmitted through sex. Chew on that for a second. There are other things that can happen during your childhood/young adulthood that could cause you to gain certain Virus's that most people just assume are only transmitted sexually. But obviously I've given you my argument and you have given me yours. My children will be taught from me to take all precautions possible and not to just assume you can detect every little problem within yourself...BY yourself. That's ignorant thinking IMO. This coming from someone who knew each time she was pregnant LONG before any tests could tell her. I know I'm in tune with my body.. But I would NEVER chance it and risk myself, my hubby or anymore future children in case something decides it doesn't want to be dormant in my body anymore and have an outbreak... Many DORMANT diseases actually attach to the fatty tissues underneath the skin and aren't even detected (Even through PAP smears and the likes of that) until there IS an actual outbreak. But I've also lived a very free and open lifestyle in my younger days...so I now try to take the measures I need. I just know...there are things you are susceptible to even if you are a Virgin and extremely clean.

possibly, but that doesn't make me stupid or ignorant for not going. If there happens to be a problem later on in life then I will go. But like Ive said before, I'm 22 and I have had nothing go wrong. I am confident that nothing will, as of now. But thank you for your argument. You are actually quite intelligent.

"stupid little girls", "you make me sad." kritz0, are you sexist or something? not to metion that whole argument between you and nuke_o started because you were too lazy to read #297's short message in full. if you HAD you would've noticed that her doctors wouldn't even let her see the ob/gyn and all of us here could've been spared the waste of time your argument generously provided.

I'm with nuke_o on this one. It doesn't make me stupid for not going. I wash and clean myself properly, so I am just as clean as any other woman without the hair. Here's another thing: How is the gynecologist going to inspect my cervix (which is usually an invasive procedure, I could be wrong.) when my hymen hasn't even broken yet? Don't they have to get past that?

why don't you get off your high horse for once?