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The only deciding factor of between legal, (US Washington), liability and the lack thereof is the oath physicians take when they receive their doctorate. So just because this woman is not a doctor, she has no liability and influence in his life? Absurd.
No, she does not have liability on another persons decisions. If he kills himself over a break up that is his problem not her.
The level of emotional blackmail lately is soaring beyond measurable heights...as are the people who are this easily manipulated. Is the OP in any way related to the guy who married the (almost) suicidal lady?
Yeah, except for the fact that people that make these kind of statements are generally unaware that they are doing something inherently wrong.... Usually, they are afraid of rejection or abandonment, which calls for psychiatric help that only a professional can provide.
^that's not always true. I had an ex who used it as blackmail, threatening the day after our breakup that he'd kill himself if I didn't get back with him. I did what I had to; I told his parents what he told me and advised them to get him help. he admitted the truth to his mom, who made a 17 year old kid write me an apology letter. I won't lie, it made a nasty breakup humorous and I felt awesome.
Tell him to **** off.
There is a difference between depressed and suicidal. Depression is the cause of suicide, but they are often on different levels. Just because you have a chemical disorder similar to the Op's (ex) friend does not mean you understand what causes him to act the way he does. I am not sure what to advise in this case. Op has a choice to make, she can be the toy of an emotionally unstable person or she can call in the calvery. While someone who is depressed might say "I hate myself and I want to die" someone who actively seeks death and threatens the well being of other people emotionally or physically needs to get help from a doctor. Call him on his bluff Op, call in some help and tell him you care about him but you are not dating and cannot deal with his issues if he is going to try and drag you down too.
How can people do that? Will they enjoy spending the rest of their life with someone who stays with them only because they don't want to feel responsible for their death if they leave? Hard to give advice here, I wouldn't have a clue as to how to deal with it. Good luck
OP, I'm sorry, that's super messed up. But your friend needs help. Professional help. Please, try to find someone who will help. I've been there, with a suicidal friend who created her own fantasy land out of Fruits Basket. Unfortunately, we tried to get her help, and no one cared, no one did anything. Hopefully, you can get your friend help, just don't try to do it alone. Its incredibly hard. Good luck!
Tell Him alright go ahead I have some Popcorn Ready Lol
I think the whole "if he's saying it then he's not going to do it" thing about suicide is true. Real suicidal people don't threaten with it or use it for attention. While he obviously needs help and you should probably get help for him and be there to support him, don't allow him to control you through emotional blackmail.
false. one of the major warning signs for suicide is a person saying they're going to do it, especially in teenagers.
I really could not care less about your experience. You agreed with "I think the whole "if he's saying it then he's not going to do it" thing about suicide is true. Real suicidal people don't threaten with it or use it for attention." and I simply asked for you both to stop talking BS. It's simple really, and your experience is really irrelevant to the request.
I agree with boat. Every emo kid in my highschool used to whine about how they were going to kill themselves every day, then shallow cut their wrists and come to school the next day with their sleeves rolled up to show them off. The one girl that /did/ kill herself never said anything to anyone about it.
It seems my post disappeared, but, star_ver 1) My experience IS relevant. We are discussing suicidal people. My experiences are with suicidal people. 2) I did agree with that, because I had no reason to believe that my experience was not the norm. When I was told I was wrong, I accepted that. If you scroll up you can see where I admitted it. No need to jump down my throat. I wasn't intentionally talking BS.
Not always. Don't generalize.
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I know he's your friend but it appears he really needs professional help. Assuming that you have never discussed being a couple, it now appears that not only is he suffering from depression but he has created a whole fantasy land within his head that you are somehow going out. And that is not a good sign.
Oh wow. That's kind of intense. I'm really sorry. I hope you found a tactful way to tell him that he was mistaken... good luck.