No they don't understand "consequences and what I did wrong" buy they sure as hell understand "if I do this then this happens". It's a deterrent and does exactly what it's meant to.

Dogs learn faster when their young.

Actually, you should show the pup they are doing wrong. Wholw point of training, so they LEARN. It's not like she beat the shit out of it. She took a trainer's advise, which is what she should be doing any how.

^Whole* point

Your profile is..mother of god

You could counter that by rewarding them when they pee outside, though. Or instead of punishing them when they pee inside, you could pick them up when they do it and put them outside for a little while.

It's a ****** dog u jackass I LOVE dogs but if the puppy pisses on the floor u do the same thing ppl have been doing for ******* years u point at and sternly tell it no its not like OP is ******* kicking the dog in the face just stop being such a ******* bitch we should treat animals with respect and love but they are just ******* animals and it pisses me off so much when people are like "oh don't spank your dog when he pees it poops inside just tell him no" it's the same thing with kids sometimes when they do something wrong u have to ******* hit them!

I agree, #26; OP shouldn't have bought a puppy if she hadn't researched it beforehand. I can understand the use of the coin-can being a distraction; but OP is using it incorrectly and far too early. I got a 3yr old rescue dog who had no house training whatsoever, and managed to train her with ease without punishing her once. I guess every dog owner has to start somewhere and I give OP credit for getting a dog trainer; we all make mistakes, it's just a shame the puppy suffered as a consequence.

26. You a a moron for believing in positive only training. Training requires both negatives and positives. 'no' isn't a negative, the dog does not understand the meaning behind it. You may as well have said bananas. It must be disciplined for doing the wrong thing and praised for doing the right. I think you should find another hobby as you fail a a dog trainer.

#138, it isn't the word that the puppy will understand, it's the tone of voice you use when saying said word. A NEW puppy who's still not aware of the rules, stressed with separation anxiety, doesn't need discipline, it simply needs training. If you walked into my house and did something wrong (unknown to you) and I came running up to you blowing an air horn in your ear without saying a single word, you would be terrified and would have learnt nothing. I find it worrying that you would consider instantly using discipline methods on a new puppy. In case you haven't noticed, the discipline method in this FML had a very negative effect.

Oh yeah, and if #26 can train his/her dogs well without any discipline, then he/she is anything BUT a bad trainer.

The discipline had a negative affect as it was done wrong. A young pup doesn't know the rules correct. Also dogs do not use vocal noises as their primary communication. Watch a bitch and her pups, just days old, if they bite her nipple to hard, she disciplines them does she not? And how does she do it? By nipping the back of their neck. She doesnt growl at them and push them away. You don't see the dog cowering from the bitch after this do you? Or ******** themselves. They learn that biting to hard means they get disciplined. Again only a few days old! The dog should be weeks old by the time you get it. Explain to me why you are trying to teach the dog a new way of being corrected? (by yelling no, showing anger/frustration, and 'growling') when for the past 8weeks of its life it already had a way of being corrected, a way it understands at a primal level?

And don't compare the way humans learn. This shows that you have 0 knowledge of the way a dog see's things.

When puppies are first born they cannot hear which is why after a while the mum learns to nip them gently as growling gets no reaction

If I slapped my rescue dog on the nose, it would probably bring up all the unwanted, aggressive behaviour I managed to train out of it. A sharp stern (slightly growly) "No" and a stern look should be enough to stop the dog doing unwanted behaviour, if it's well trained. I agree with your last sentence though.

79 - while I believe your comment has merit, I think you missed the point a bit. The problem with OP's puppy is that it is not trained yet. Method you use on your trained animals would be inherently less effective on an untrained animal, until they are trained to understand them.

79 - That's fine, I'm not saying a small hit on the nose is the only way to go or anything like that. But a stern "no" works best with, like you said, a well trained dog. A pup like the OP has wouldn't find the stern "no" as significant as your dog or mine. I haven't had to hit my dog on the nose in years, he's at the point where a sharp "no" is enough. But he got there by being encouraged when he behaved and tapped on the nose when he didn't.

The stern "no" is supposed to work just like the sound of the pennies. OP misused it to scare the dog as a punishment, but it's to distract the puppy from what it's doing, and eventually they catch on to what the word means. It's not just for an already trained dog. And what's the difference between what you are suggesting and scaring the dog with a loud sound? Hitting on the nose is not necessary and I'd say just as damaging.

Just saying, you should never slap a dog on the nose, even lightly. It's a very sensitive area, and you can damage their sense of smell forever (which is a pretty cruel thing to do to a dog). If you feel the need to use corporal punishment on your pet (which isn't actually necessary in training), you give it a light smack on the behind.

Fair enough, I concede that a tap on the nose isn't necessarily the best way to raise a dog. Still, it's not like I'm condoning beating them. A tap on the nose is the way I was taught to make a disobedient dog behave and if my dog's usual behavior is anything to go by, it worked.

Oh, I won't deny that it works, it works very well. But it's also permamently damaging. However, if you didn't know then you didn't know. Like I said, I'm just saying. It's not the best way to discipline a dog.

It? The puppy isn't a candy bar. HER.