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Wow. People really prefer being outraged and throwing around outdated facts about veal.
What's always interesting to me is how slaughtering animals who were bred to be used as food then gets confused with the issues of how they were treated when they were alive and whether or not it's okay to eat little ones. If you can eat the adults, you can eat the babies. Differentiating between a "big cow" and a "little cow" when it's time to eat is just stupid. Either they are food or they aren't. I like eating meat, so for me, it's all about whether it's tasty, expensive, and/or horribly unhealthy. (Bacon, among other things, is *awfully* fatty stuff). Where I go completely the other direction is regarding how the animals are treated how they are alive. Not only is it bad for the animals - and even the meat! - when they are treated poorly, but it's bad for the humans, too. One of the reasons that torture and mistreatment of any kind has been outlawed is because it can do irreparable harm to the *torturer*. It's just a bad practice all around. Even more to the point, an animal handler recently redesigned the way the cows used by McDonald's were led to slaughter. Cattle prods were done away with, and special corrals were built that kept the cows in close quarters on their way to a slaughter machine. It worked. Instead of being zapped and whipped screaming to their deaths, the cows enjoyed the snug closeness of the new corrals and went quietly where they were supposed to go. Better for them, better for the handlers, better for everyone.
While I don't eat cow it isn't for ethical reasons. Humans are in a species and classified scientifically as animals (within the kingdom animalia), and some animals are carnivorous. Lions eat other lions and no one says anything, so why should humans be ashamed of eating meat? Who cares if he doesn't like you? Find a man who can grub on a burger.
#100 WTF ? You know that meat is muscle, right ?... RIGHT ? (in my country at least) I don't know anything about this, can somebody explain to me what's the difference between the living conditions of veal and cow ? One live longer than the other, but I always thought both of them had horrible lifes, and that, at least, the veal's life is shorter. (I'm not being sarcastic, I'm honestly curious about this)
Ouch, that sucks.
#188 There was a time when veal was raised in a dark box and not allowed much movement whilst being overfed in order to produce more tender meat. Many countries have outlawed this practice, though apparently the "save the cute animals" types haven't gotten that memo, or refuse to acknowledge it. They are killed the same way any cow is killed, and raised basically the same.
I eat meat and find pushy vegetarians and vegans irritating. However, I think the raising of calves for veal is barbaric. It's pretty arrogant of us as a species to think its ok to subject what is an emotionally intelligent animal to that kind of torture all in the name of food, when there are kinder alternatives out there. The animals eat animals argument is good until you consider that lions etc don't stick their prey into small crates and breed from them. Their meat is at least free-range. I think if we are going to raise animals specifically for the purpose of eating them then we owe it to them to make sure they have decent quality of lives, living in humane conditions. (I've worked on farms... it's perfectly do-able, and far more rewarding!) I know that I'm starting to sound like one of those pushy people I myself have grown to loathe, but I'm just trying to explain there are compromises out there and that while I'll never give up meat, I'll draw the line at least at not eating an animal that has lived and died under such appalling conditions.
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Well, I mean, it's not the most politically correct meat on the planet. It seems he may be a vegetarian. You should probably lose his number anyway. I mean, you met him at the mall.
Wow, well if hes going to be like that for not being vegan, not worth your time. I'm vegetarian myself but I realize it's not for everyone.